Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Greetings edrum brothers,
Does anyone know where to get classic songs from ELP,Zep,etc. 
without drum tracks? I have heard the "Lay it Down" cds but would 
like some old classics. Also,can the drums on existing albums, I 
mean cds,(guess I'm showing my age) be taken out by a mix or 
something? Thank for any info.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> 
> Greetings edrum brothers,
> Does anyone know where to get classic songs from ELP,Zep,etc. 
> without drum tracks? I have heard the "Lay it Down" cds but would 
> like some old classics. Also,can the drums on existing albums, I 
> mean cds,(guess I'm showing my age) be taken out by a mix or 
> something? Thank for any info.

I believe a CD burning program like Nero can be used to remove 
selected instruments from tracks. I haven't done so, however.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > Greetings edrum brothers,
> > Does anyone know where to get classic songs from ELP,Zep,etc. 
> > without drum tracks? I have heard the "Lay it Down" cds but would 
> > like some old classics. Also,can the drums on existing albums, I 
> > mean cds,(guess I'm showing my age) be taken out by a mix or 
> > something? Thank for any info.
> 
> I believe a CD burning program like Nero can be used to remove 
> selected instruments from tracks. I haven't done so, however.

Hi Nick and edrummin,

Unless I've missed something (always a possibility), extracting 
drums, or any other instrument, from a fully mastered stereo 
recording is not an easy proposition. If you have the original 
multitrack tapes, then you can cut anything that occupies its own 
track, but once you get to the final stage, and everything is mixed 
into two channels, you're in a pickle. In the higher reaches of 
digital manipulation, engineers can tinker with data and make 
remarkable changes to an original recording, eliminating noise and 
correcting the ravages of time, but deleting one element without 
affecting everything else would seem prohibitive. In the early days 
of stereo, a lot of popular music was recorded with brickwall pans 
that often left the drums on their own channel. Early Beatle albums 
were not immune. In that case, it's pretty easy to substitute your 
own drumming for Ringo's. 

I don't know what the Music Minus One CDs have to offer these days. I 
used them to accompany jazz standards on my trombone back in the late 
fifties and early sixties. Doesn't the Berkley School of Music have a 
bunch of CDs with bass lines for drummers to follow?  In terms of the 
rock classics, the best that you probably can do is to mine one of 
those MIDI sites that has a selection of popular songs and cut the 
drum channel. I don't know much about them, but that's what MIDI can 
offer. If anyone has other information or suggestions, please post it.

Ed

http://www.mmgonline.com/music4drums/songs/

This site used to have a load of drummerless tracks on it, but seems 
to have disappeared in the last few days. For all you budding Neil 
Pearts, I know there are a few good drummerless Rush tracks over on 
www.vdrums.com (in the studio section) that a very talented 
contributor did.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "edrummin" <jjff@v...> wrote:

> 
> Greetings edrum brothers,
> Does anyone know where to get classic songs from ELP,Zep,etc. 
> without drum tracks? I have heard the "Lay it Down" cds but would 
> like some old classics. Also,can the drums on existing albums, I 
> mean cds,(guess I'm showing my age) be taken out by a mix or 
> something? Thank for any info.

can i use v-drums patches on my dt-xpress
 

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, fad sab <fad1261@y...> wrote:
> can i use v-drums patches on my dt-xpress
>  

To the extent that Roland and Yamaha modules conform to the General 
MIDI standard, they can be used to access each other's General MIDI 
patches and note numbers, for percussion or anything else. However, 
Roland and Yamaha modules differ in their utilization of MIDI channel 
10, the traditional repository for electronic drum sounds. You cannot 
transport their sounds/kits from one module to the other via software 
like DTXchange. Did I get the question?

Ed

Sorry for any confusion (if indeed there is any). The tracks I 
referred to on http://www.vdrums.com are audio tracks without the 
drums (i.e. only bass & guitar), so you can play along with them - 
there's no MIDI involved at all.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, fad sab <fad1261@y...> wrote:
> > can i use v-drums patches on my dt-xpress
> >  
> 
> To the extent that Roland and Yamaha modules conform to the General 
> MIDI standard, they can be used to access each other's General MIDI 
> patches and note numbers, for percussion or anything else. However, 
> Roland and Yamaha modules differ in their utilization of MIDI 
channel 
> 10, the traditional repository for electronic drum sounds. You 
cannot 
> transport their sounds/kits from one module to the other via 
software 

> like DTXchange. Did I get the question?
> 
> Ed