Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi,  I have a standard DTXpress II and wish to expand a little by adding 
cymbals.  I just wondered if anyone could give me a hand.  Can you only add 
1 extra cymbal to the module?  Can this be a YAMAHA PCY-65S Cymbal 
Pad, Dual Zone Stereo Cymbal E-DrumPad?  Could I possibly add a Yamaha 
BP-80 Bar Pad, stereo, two zones, instead?  I was told that the Bar Pad is not 
compatible with the DTXPress II (only with the mrk III) - is that right?  

Many thanks
Fiona

Fiona,
 
The BP-80 will work with the DTXpress I or II or III modules in inputs 9/10
using a stereo cable.  You have several choices when adding cymbals. You can
add PCY65 mono,PCY65S stereo, PCY130 mono, PCY130S stereo or the PCY150S
stereo three zone cymbals. 
 
Currently your PCY65 mono and PCY65S stereo two zone cymbals are plugged
into inputs 6 and 7. These inputs are stereo three zone capable. Thus you
could add two PCY150S and plug them into 6 & 7. Then plug the KP65 into
input 9/10. Then plug you existing PCY65 into the KP65. Make sure to use a
stereo cable between the module and the KP65. Then finally move your
existing PCY65S to input no. 1.  The net result will be adding two
three-zone cymbals and maintaining your two existing cymbals. The only thing
that you would lose is the choking on the PCY65S that you move to input 1.
Only inputs 2, 6 & 7 are cabable of being choked.
 
If you want to just stick with PCY65 style pads, then you could add a PCY65S
and plugged it into input 6. Move the existing PCY65 mono pad up to input 9
and add another PCY65 mono pad to input 10. You will need a splitter cable
that takes two mono inputs on one end and a single stereo plug on the other
end to plug into the module at input 9/10.
 
So to add one cymbal just plug it into the 9/10, but remember that input
9/10 you can only use mono zone pads like the PCY65 or PCY130. When you plug
a stereo pad into 9/10, you will not get the rim voice.
 
OGD

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From: fionajms [] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 4:28 AM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] adding cymbals to the DTXpress II



Hi,  I have a standard DTXpress II and wish to expand a little by adding 
cymbals.  I just wondered if anyone could give me a hand.  Can you only add 
1 extra cymbal to the module?  Can this be a YAMAHA PCY-65S Cymbal 
Pad, Dual Zone Stereo Cymbal E-DrumPad?  Could I possibly add a Yamaha 
BP-80 Bar Pad, stereo, two zones, instead?  I was told that the Bar Pad is
not 
compatible with the DTXPress II (only with the mrk III) - is that right?  

Many thanks
Fiona


 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fionajms" <f.james@v...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,  I have a standard DTXpress II and wish to expand a little by 
adding 
> cymbals.  I just wondered if anyone could give me a hand.  Can you 
only add 
> 1 extra cymbal to the module?  Can this be a YAMAHA PCY-65S Cymbal 
> Pad, Dual Zone Stereo Cymbal E-DrumPad?  Could I possibly add a 
Yamaha 
> BP-80 Bar Pad, stereo, two zones, instead?  I was told that the Bar 
Pad is not 
> compatible with the DTXPress II (only with the mrk III) - is that 
right? 

Fiona, 

The free input 9/10 is in essence a dual-mono input, meaning that it 
can accept either two single-voice pads (no rim or edge) or one 
double-voice, or dual-zone, pad, like the BP-80 (which is perfect for 
the DTXPI, II, or III). A dual-zone pad is not to be confused with 
one of Yamaha's stereo pads (like the TP65S or PCY65S), which are 
really single-zone pads with a trick device that allows them to sound 
two (or three) voices when connected to the proper input. 
Unfortunately, input 9/10 is not such an input. Any Yamaha pad with 
an "S" designation (for "stereo") will be wasted in 9/10 because its 
rim/edge function will not work. (If you want to add one of these "S" 
pads to the DTXpress, then you can swap your mono kick or a mono tom 
to 9/10 and use the new "S" pad in the vacated input, leaving you one 
more slot to fill in 9/10. You might mess up Yamaha's default kits, 
but your user kits can make the adjustment with a few parameter 
changes.)

So, assuming that you want to leave everything else as is on your kit 
when you fill 9/10, you can either add two new mono pads (via a TRS 
adaptor--two monos leads to a stereo connector into 9/10) or a BP-80 
(via a stereo cable). You also have options from other companies like 
Roland, Hart, Pintech, Visulite, Smartrigger, Drum Tech, et al. for 
either mono or dual-zone pads. Some of the dual-zone pads from other 
companies will require the same adaptor into 9/10 as two separate 
mono pads do. I suggest that you stay with Yamaha at this stage of 
the game; integration of other manufacturers' pads is sometimes a 
sticky wicket.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fionajms" <f.james@v...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,  I have a standard DTXpress II and wish to expand a little by 
> adding 
> > cymbals.  I just wondered if anyone could give me a hand.  Can you 
> only add 
> > 1 extra cymbal to the module?  Can this be a YAMAHA PCY-65S Cymbal 
> > Pad, Dual Zone Stereo Cymbal E-DrumPad?  Could I possibly add a 
> Yamaha 
> > BP-80 Bar Pad, stereo, two zones, instead?  I was told that the Bar 
> Pad is not 
> > compatible with the DTXPress II (only with the mrk III) - is that 
> right? 
> 
> Fiona, 
> 
> The free input 9/10 is in essence a dual-mono input, meaning that it 
> can accept either two single-voice pads (no rim or edge) or one 
> double-voice, or dual-zone, pad, like the BP-80 (which is perfect for 
> the DTXPI, II, or III). A dual-zone pad is not to be confused with 
> one of Yamaha's stereo pads (like the TP65S or PCY65S), which are 
> really single-zone pads with a trick device that allows them to sound 
> two (or three) voices when connected to the proper input. 
> Unfortunately, input 9/10 is not such an input. Any Yamaha pad with 
> an "S" designation (for "stereo") will be wasted in 9/10 because its 
> rim/edge function will not work. (If you want to add one of these "S" 
> pads to the DTXpress, then you can swap your mono kick or a mono tom 
> to 9/10 and use the new "S" pad in the vacated input, leaving you one 
> more slot to fill in 9/10. You might mess up Yamaha's default kits, 
> but your user kits can make the adjustment with a few parameter 
> changes.)
> 
> So, assuming that you want to leave everything else as is on your kit 
> when you fill 9/10, you can either add two new mono pads (via a TRS 
> adaptor--two monos leads to a stereo connector into 9/10) or a BP-80 
> (via a stereo cable). You also have options from other companies like 
> Roland, Hart, Pintech, Visulite, Smartrigger, Drum Tech, et al. for 
> either mono or dual-zone pads. Some of the dual-zone pads from other 
> companies will require the same adaptor into 9/10 as two separate 
> mono pads do. I suggest that you stay with Yamaha at this stage of 
> the game; integration of other manufacturers' pads is sometimes a 
> sticky wicket.
> 
> Ed




Many thanks Ed!  I'm not quite sure what I'll do yet but at least I
now know what I'm doing!!
Cheers

Fiona

Great!!  I didn't know I could use the 3 zone cymbals with the
DTXpress II!!  Think I might give that a go!!
Thanks

Fiona