Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi to all,

 I've notice that when I hit the hi-hat or the tom3 near to rack 
connection point the hi-hat produce sound from snare and tom3 voice 
from ride. I tried different trigger type but the problem was worst. 
STD Med is what I always used.
Why is that happening?
To help you understand the exact area that the wrong voice produces 
see the following pic

http://www.athprobe.com/pic.jpg

thanks in advance 
Antonis

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonis21@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi to all,
> 
>  I've notice that when I hit the hi-hat or the tom3 near to rack 
> connection point the hi-hat produce sound from snare and tom3 voice 
> from ride. I tried different trigger type but the problem was 
worst. 
> STD Med is what I always used.
> Why is that happening?
> To help you understand the exact area that the wrong voice produces 
> see the following pic

Antonis,

Welcome to the club. Such crosstalk is a common occurrence, and 
Yamaha addresses its remedy in the manual, which you should consult, 
poorly organized and written as it is. The hits on your hi hat and 
tom3 are creating vibrations along the rack that cause other pads to 
trigger sympathetically. By adjusting the rejection and specific 
rejection numbers, as well as those for gain and minimum velocity, in 
the Trigger Edit Mode for the reactive pads, you should be able to 
mitigate the problem. But be sure to adjust these parameters only to 
the bare extent that they eliminate the crosstalk; don't just settle 
on a high or low number. The cure can be worse than the disease: Bad 
programming can make pads refuse to fire under ordinary conditions. 
So look in the index under the terms that I've mentioned and get back 
to us if you need further help deciphering what they mean and how 
they operate.

Ed

Thank you very much for the quick help.
I will try your suggestions and will consult the manual too.
Does the DTXpress has any Reset button or Load Factory Defaults as 
contigency plan?

thanks
Antonis

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonis21@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi to all,
> > 
> >  I've notice that when I hit the hi-hat or the tom3 near to rack 
> > connection point the hi-hat produce sound from snare and tom3 
voice 
> > from ride. I tried different trigger type but the problem was 
> worst. 
> > STD Med is what I always used.
> > Why is that happening?
> > To help you understand the exact area that the wrong voice 
produces 
> > see the following pic
> 
> Antonis,
> 
> Welcome to the club. Such crosstalk is a common occurrence, and 
> Yamaha addresses its remedy in the manual, which you should 
consult, 
> poorly organized and written as it is. The hits on your hi hat and 
> tom3 are creating vibrations along the rack that cause other pads 
to 
> trigger sympathetically. By adjusting the rejection and specific 
> rejection numbers, as well as those for gain and minimum velocity, 
in 
> the Trigger Edit Mode for the reactive pads, you should be able to 
> mitigate the problem. But be sure to adjust these parameters only 
to 
> the bare extent that they eliminate the crosstalk; don't just 
settle 
> on a high or low number. The cure can be worse than the disease: 
Bad 
> programming can make pads refuse to fire under ordinary 
conditions. 
> So look in the index under the terms that I've mentioned and get 
back 

> to us if you need further help deciphering what they mean and how 
> they operate.
> 
> Ed

Instead of changing the configuration and face any other problem I 
have removed the HH from the arm that snare is attached too and plug 
it of the arm with the module.
It's better and more convinient this way but I hope not the arm to 
break down.

cheers
Antonis

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonis21@y...> wrote:
> 
> Thank you very much for the quick help.
> I will try your suggestions and will consult the manual too.
> Does the DTXpress has any Reset button or Load Factory Defaults as 
> contigency plan?
> 
> thanks
> Antonis
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonis21@y...> 
wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi to all,
> > > 
> > >  I've notice that when I hit the hi-hat or the tom3 near to 
rack 
> > > connection point the hi-hat produce sound from snare and tom3 
> voice 
> > > from ride. I tried different trigger type but the problem was 
> > worst. 
> > > STD Med is what I always used.
> > > Why is that happening?
> > > To help you understand the exact area that the wrong voice 
> produces 
> > > see the following pic
> > 
> > Antonis,
> > 
> > Welcome to the club. Such crosstalk is a common occurrence, and 
> > Yamaha addresses its remedy in the manual, which you should 
> consult, 
> > poorly organized and written as it is. The hits on your hi hat 
and 
> > tom3 are creating vibrations along the rack that cause other 
pads 
> to 
> > trigger sympathetically. By adjusting the rejection and specific 
> > rejection numbers, as well as those for gain and minimum 
velocity, 
> in 
> > the Trigger Edit Mode for the reactive pads, you should be able 
to 
> > mitigate the problem. But be sure to adjust these parameters 
only 
> to 
> > the bare extent that they eliminate the crosstalk; don't just 
> settle 
> > on a high or low number. The cure can be worse than the disease: 
> Bad 
> > programming can make pads refuse to fire under ordinary 
> conditions. 
> > So look in the index under the terms that I've mentioned and get 
> back 
> > to us if you need further help deciphering what they mean and 
how 

> > they operate.
> > 
> > Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonis21@y...> wrote:
> 
> Instead of changing the configuration and face any other problem I 
> have removed the HH from the arm that snare is attached too and 
plug 
> it of the arm with the module.
> It's better and more convinient this way but I hope not the arm to 
> break down.

Antonis,

That's a good idea, and it should make a difference. But if you 
continue to have crosstalk problems, get back to us. You can correct 
them, or come close to correcting them, without doing damage to the 
kit's response.

Ed