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Re: TP65 Miss Triggers

2005-02-03 by swanseadrummer

The pad is actually the TP65S (I forgot to add the 'S').  It is the 
3zone snare pad.  I have had no problems at all when playing at home 
through headphones and no problem during practise.  The triggering 
problem only happened a few times during live playing - I rolled on 
the snare a few times without any problem it was just the ocasional 
hit that didn't sound.

The bass guitar combo was about 2 feet away from the snare and just 
to the rear, I also had my carlsbro powered wedge standing upright 
immediately behind the snare about 1 foot away which I was using as 
my main amp - so maybe that was causing the problem, I don't really 
know.

The cymbal is the PCY65 and does not have chocking, so I am a bit 
stumped as to why that sound was cut very short and sounded on two 
occasions more like a splash than a crash.

I will keep an eye on things and ensure that no amps are too close to 
the kit and see if that sorts it out.

Thanks all for your input.

Aeron



--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Creighton Higgins <creightonh@g...> 
wrote:
> As Ed suggests, sound from amplifiers messes up pad response when
> playing live. I have found that just turning an amp a bit away from
> the kit helps alot and prevents miss-fires and missed hits. 
Regarding
> your crash- if it is one of the choking cymbals; I have found that 
it
> reveals bad technique by quenching itself as it is being hit. These
> cymbals require a very quick hit. If you carry over a "playing 
through
> the cymbal" technique from your acoustic days, you will choke the
> cymabal as you hit it. This involves a loss of dramatic visual 
impact
> which I have replaced by making faces like Laura Dern in Blue 
Velvet.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 08:36:03 -0000, Nick Carroll
> <njcarroll56@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hey Aeron,
> > 
> > Let me just check with you - this miss-triggering problem happens
> > with your TP65 (8-inch 3-zone snare pad)?  I had considered 
trading
> > down to the TP65 thinking it was only an issue with the TP120SD 
(12-
> > inch pad).  In any case, please let me know how your next gig 
goes,
> > because I intend to follow this issue very closely.
> > 
> > Nick.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "swanseadrummer"
> > <aeron.kirczey@n...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response.  When I bought the kit, I had to move
> > the
> > > hihat from the extention arm on the snare arm and mounted it on
> > the
> > > module arm at the top, as a hihat hit was triggering the snare, 
so
> > > maybe the gain is a bit high.  When playing the kit at home, I
> > have
> > > no trouble at all, so the more I think about it, the more
> > convinced I
> > > am that the Bass may be affecting the snare.
> > >
> > > I don't have my accoustic kit anymore so will have to persevere.
> > One
> > > of the ways I got the wifes agreement to buy the DTx was to 
offer
> > her
> > > some room in the copboard under the stairs for the hoover and
> > ironing
> > > board, this was only possible by getting rid of the accoustic 
and
> > > buying the electronic kit instead as it takes up less room when
> > > packed away - and it obviously worked!
> > >
> > > Have a big gig on Feb 11th, so will see what happens there.
> > >
> > > Aeron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
<njcarroll56@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Aeron,
> > > >
> > > > I am having exact same trouble with the TP120S snare on my
> > > DTXtreme,
> > > > and it only happens when the bass guitar amp is either too 
loud
> > and
> > > > boomy, or too close to my kit.  At the last gig, I asked our
> > bass
> > > > player to move his gear off my part of the stage floor and had
> > no
> > > > problem.  Reducing the Gain, which makes the snare pad less
> > > > sensitive, was also helpful to some extent.  However, in the
> > event
> > > > that our bass player is unwilling or unable to comply, I 
always
> > > pack
> > > > my acoustic snare as a standby!
> > > >
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "swanseadrummer"
> > > > <aeron.kirczey@n...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "swanseadrummer"
> > > > > > <aeron.kirczey@n...> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all, purchased a DTxpress III recently and used it 
live
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > first time on Saturday.  Had a problem with the 
occasional
> > > hit
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > snare pad not triggering.
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Creighton Higgins

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