Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

i would never have put such a bold statement if I hadn't been on the phone with pintech for over 40 minutes with them telling me that i should change this, now change that back, try it now with the yamaha pad and see if it works, ok it works?  change it back to that and see if that sounds better.  it didn't sound better.  they literally did everything i could and when i told her that the lightest hit i could perform still hit at 68%, she said well that's "to be expected."  plus my opinion about the futility of the triggering system via a foam column up the middle of the inside that presses quite annoyingly against the outside of the head was purely subjective by nature.  the fact is that the women from pintech admitted to me on the phone quite bluntly that the concertcast is "NOT A GOOD MATCH FOR THE DTXPRESS."  Can i be blamed for wanting to warn others from making the mistake that i did?  No.  Can I be blamed for saying something doesn't work when I tried everything and anything
 for two weeks to make it do so? No.  I understand your concern and I had no intention of sounding like I knew everything there is to know, and certainly didn't intend to make others feel like they had been "sitting on their hands...waiting for me to show up and tell you what works."  But Ed, the indisputable fact is that by Pintech's own admission, it does not work well with the kit that everyone in this forum plays, and therefore, it should not be purchased for use with the DTXpress.  If you know something the technical support line at pintech world does, then i will wholly retract my last post, but we also spoke about possible additions from other companies to make it work, and nothing available would be worth the price.  at one point, she suggested i buy a different module to make a trigger pad work.  I was attempting to protect others from  wasting their money.  If this is an open forum about the DTXpress, then things regarding the DTXpress, both good and bad, should be posted. 
 And I am not libel because I gave a subjective opinion based on extensive efforts to make the trigger work.  you've been a great help in the past and your knowledge of edrumming and im sure drumming in general far far far surpasses mine.  however, and i mean no offense, but the same is not true about the pintech concercast and its compatibility with the DTXpress.  this doesn't change the fact that you are the man ed, and i mean that with the high level of respect you deserve as you are, from what i have seen, the most knowledgable and willing to help member of our forum.  in the future, i will exercise more caution in making such inflammatory statements, but that still doesn't change the substance of my last post, or my intentions in making the post.
Humbly,
Frank

emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fjcelauro" <fjcelauro@y...> wrote:
> the pintech concertcast, while being cheaper than a roland, does not 
> work on a dtxpress very well at all.  it picks up the slightest hits 
> at 80% and the medium hits at 99% and without buying additional 
> equipment, it is terrible to a drummer who varies the force of his 
> snare hits, which i hope is all of us.  i am returning mine right 
away 
> and would like to stop others from making the same mistake.  the 
worst 
> thing is the foam colum up the middle triggering system, because if 
> you hit anywhere near the foam (which is right in the middle, you 
get 
> both a different feel and sound).  caveat emptor (buyer beware)

Please be careful about what you advise people to do or not do on this 
board. We're certainly interested in your successes and failures, but 
blanket assertions from people with limited experience on edrums must 
be taken with a grain of salt. The Pintech CCs have a long history of 
use by resourceful DTXpress owners over the years, even though the 
match isn't necessarily made in heaven out of the box.  Until you've 
accumulated the kind of varied information about your own kit that 
many others who visit here (and elsewhere) earn and demonstrate, as 
well as about other components and techniques associated with edrums, 
you might do well taking the more humble approach. 

The DTXpress was made first and foremost for use with DTXpress 
components, and secondarily for use with other Yamaha components (like 
some of those associated with the DTXtremeIIS). It takes some 
knowledge of how modules and edrums work in general to get in a 
position to adapt other manufacturers' components with it.  Many of us 
have been here a long time; we haven't been sitting on our hands for 
the better part of five or six years waiting for you to show up to 
tell us what works and what doesn't.  

Ed





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