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Re: WARNING: DO NOT USE PINTECH CONCERTCAST ON DTXPRESS

2005-05-03 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, MrPhoney@a... wrote:
> Frank, I understand your being upset by Ed's response because you 
knew that  
> you had gotten your information from Pintech. Ed did not know this 
nor did  
> anyone else by your original posting. I thought the same thing that 
Ed did. Who  
> is this guy? How can he make such a claim? How much does he really 
know about 
>  electronic kits and how to adjust the different parameters? Next 
time start 
> off  your posting with something like, "After talking to Pintech 
directly for 
> 20  minutes I advise everyone not to use the ConcertCast pads with 
the DTX 
> Express.  Here is why........"

Claudio and Frank,

I appreciate both of your responses. But the fact is that many people 
through the years have adapted the Pintech CC to the DTXpress, warts 
and all. Some of them have inserted the 250k pot between it and the 
module, thereby achieving the dynamic range that is at issue here and 
still managing to keep costs down. Some of them have found other ways 
of adapting it. Now, the truth of the matter is that Brian LaRue, who 
used to run the day-to-day operations of Pintech before he left for a 
position at Taye drums, was a friend of mine and a contributing 
member of this group. He and I had discussions about trying to add 
sensitivity control to the Pintech pads as a direct way to compensate 
for what the DTXpress cannot do without external tweaking. 
Unfortunately, this plan, and others at Pintech, didn't come to 
fruition, because of Brian's abrupt departure. We started another 
group on Yahoo (Pintech/Visu-lite Group) that might have been able to 
deal further with some of these issues, but our schedules didn't work 
out. I offered this group to Pintech for a tech support outlet, 
specifically to Rick Koppen, who seemed receptive at the time, but 
the interest didn't materialize. I did some tech support for Brian 
concerning the use of the CCs with Yamaha equipment. Some of my 
contacts were individuals, and some were stores. Some of them took my 
suggestions, and some of them didn't, couldn't, or wouldn't. 

Advising people not to use Pintech CCs with the DTXpress not only 
flies in the face of what members have done for years; it doesn't 
take into account the fact that many people are handy enough to 
tackle small DIY projects. You have said, "The Pintech ConcertCast 
meshes out of the box diminish dynamic range when used with the 
DTXpress module. If you're not prepared to take extra steps to 
integrate it into your kit, you might not want to buy it." Check out 
Ernie's post from a couple of days ago. He's experimenting with 
finding ways to soften the shock from hitting Yamaha's rubber pads.  
His reasoning is basically, "if there's a will, there may be a way."  
He's going to a lot of trouble. He might have written to the 
board, "The rubber pads that come with the DTXPress do not absorb 
enough vibration to protect the hands and wrists from pain and 
possible damage. Do not use them." You'll notice that he didn't.

Ed

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