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Re: Recording Session

2005-08-12 by Nick Carroll

Regarding the use of brushes, it just isn't possible to use them 
with an e-kit. But I have used sticks on the module's brush kit when 
playing live with my country band. It didn't sound too bad, and I 
tweaked and changed the sounds to suit what I wanted, but obviously 
there are limitations, and real brushes on an acoustic kit will 
always sound better.

Nick.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "WoofwoofX" <woofwoofx@y...> wrote:
> Cheers mate,
> You really helped in clarifying issues I thought that noone has 
faced 
> before.
> 
> Please guys if you have any more info I do appriciate your help.
> 
> //Danny
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "matthew jones" <mj@i...> wrote:
> > I'll have a go at answering at least _some_ of your questions 
> (though I'm 
> > not the most experienced user here):
> > 
> > > 1- Drumer Tried to trigger Ghost notes and the least vel I got 
it 
> was
> > > 18 and not all the hits were recorded, How do you achieve 
ghost 
> notes.
> > 
> > You can do a lot adjusting the gain, minimum velocity and 
velocity 
> curves 
> > for the trigger inputs.  In the trigger setup you can select 
which 
> trigger 
> > to edit by hitting it, then increase the gain to pick up lighter 
> hits 
> > (decrease to make you have to hit harder).  Is there a minimum 
> velocity 
> > setting? can't remember.  The velocity curve can adjust the way 
in 
> which it 
> > gets louder with increasingly hard hits and you can make it 
boost 
> your 
> > accents or make heavy hits almost the same volume as quieter 
ones.  
> I think 
> > there are other controls that may also help here.  So if you are 
> having a 
> > problem with ghost notes not recording then increase the gain 
(but 
> be warned 
> > this can bring you into problems such as the other triggers 
> interfering with 
> > one another, setting each other off if gain is too high).  If 
the 
> quietest 
> > notes are getting picked up but send out too high a velocity 
number 
> then I 
> > think adjust the minimum velocity and velocity curves.
> > 
> > > 2- using brushes ...which is better tell the guy to bring his 
> snare
> > > and record it accosticly... or is there a way to work with it 
on 
> DTX.
> > 
> > no point playing with brushes on the electronic kit.  If you 
want 
> the brush 
> > sound, record it acoustically.  If the guy just prefers playing 
> with brushes 
> > as opposed to sticks then make him use the flexible plastic rod 
> ones 
> > (whatever they're called) since these may act as brushes without 
> many of the 
> > nasty effects of brush 'sticking' to head, too soft to get 
picked 
> up, etc.
> > 
> > > 3- trying to achieve swiiishhhhhh effect by continuously 
hiting a
> > > cybal will retriger the note and instead I will have a machine 
Gun
> > > effect... is there any way to do it or should I tell the 
drummer 
> to
> > > bring his cybal and Mic it.
> > 
> > Yeah I have mentioned this on the list and nobody seems to make 
any 
> comment. 
> > Its also just the way in which the cymbal sound drops in level 
when 
> you hit 
> > it quietly after hitting it loudly just before.  Impossible to 
do 
> on a real 
> > cymbal (without choking...) it sounds ridiculous and pisses me 
> off.  This 
> > pretty much makes the cymbals useless for playing anything other 
> than a 
> > standard crash/splash, so yeah you really need live cymbals for 
> these kits.
> > 
> > can't answer any more q's. hope that is of some help!
> > 
> > Matt
> > 
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > http://www.loopit.org
> > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "WoofwoofX" <woofwoofx@y...>
> > To: <DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 6:42 AM
> > Subject: [DTXpress] Recording Session
> > 
> > 
> > > Hello there,
> > > I amnot a drumme, but we have bought a DTXpress III Sp for our 
> studio
> > > and not mutch of experience with it, hopefully I will get a 
hand 
> from
> > > you guys in order to do a recording session with Cubase sx (in 
3 
> days
> > > time)so:
> > >
> > > 1- Drumer Tried to trigger Ghost notes and the least vel I got 
it 
> was
> > > 18 and not all the hits were recorded, How do you achieve 
ghost 
> notes.
> > >
> > > 2- using brushes ...which is better tell the guy to bring his 
> snare
> > > and record it accosticly... or is there a way to work with it 
on 
> DTX.
> > >
> > > 3- trying to achieve swiiishhhhhh effect by continuously 
hiting a
> > > cybal will retriger the note and instead I will have a machine 
Gun
> > > effect... is there any way to do it or should I tell the 
drummer 
> to
> > > bring his cybal and Mic it.
> > >
> > > 4- Is it possible to record Cymbal Chokes via MIDI and if not 
any
> > > ideas or woekarroung.
> > >
> > > 5- do you have a drum map for cubase sx ...note I have placed 
one 
> in
> > > the forum's files section but it is based on the excel file 
> already
> > > there and it didn't match?
> > >
> > > Thanks a million
> > > WoofWoofX

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