Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Dear all,

Another visit to the roland store, with the information I got from 
you, managed to get me better results.

The PD8 seem to work great if the attenuator switch is set to high.

The CY8 works, if the attenuator switch is set to high, and the 
trigger type is changed to MISC3 or PCY cup (what is 'PCY cup' 
anyway?), but it doesn't work well at all. It misses trigger here 
and there, and it's a bit unstable. Playing the same cymbal pad with 
a Roland TD-8 module they had in the store produced some sweet 
sounds.

No matter what I did, I could not make the PD85(mesh) to sound the 
rim. Maybe it's double piazzo?

Other than that, we also got the mounting problem. The store sells 
the cymbal mounting rod, but buying a cymbal and a rod is almost 
like buying two PCY65S..

From all the reasons above, I came to a conclusion that listening to 
your advice is the way to go, and that I should buy yamaha PCY65S. 
I'm a little afraid that I won't get them with the L-shaped holder 
bracket. I only have one now, and it's on my crash. I must have 
another to go with the ride. It drives me nuts sometimes.

But what about a mesh head? Pintech says they're 100% compatible. 
Can anyone confirm a good mesh pad, that is mountable on the yamaha 
rack, and can produce head and rim sounds with accuracy?

I wouldn't mind purchasing other cymbals too (round ones :-)), but I 
don't have the slightest clue to where to start the search..

Help?

Tal

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@...> wrote:
>
> Tal,
> 
> > I'm glad to hear that the roland pads and cymbals should work. 
To 
> > your best knowledge, are those rolands stereo pads and not 
double 
> > piazzo? I was assuming that it's only a setting problem in my 
part.
> 
> I am fairly sure they are single piezo.  A post at the Vdrum forum 
may
> help:
> 
> http://www.vdrums.com/
> 
> Also, I recently lent my DTXpander box to my drum teacher who uses 
a
> TD8 and it worked fine.  If his module wanted two piezos rather 
than a
> piezo and rim switch it wouldn't have worked.
> 
> > 4) I tried turning on and off the RimToPad setting. I read in 
the 
> > manual what it does, but I didn't understand. Is it at all 
related 
> > to my situation?
> 
> Never used that.  Mine are set to "disable"
> 
> > 6) Hitting the front side of the cymbal "triggers" the rim, but 
does 
> > not play the sound, it stays on 0% triggering.
> 
> It is strange it triggers but no sound and 0%.  It would do that if
> there was a rim switch closure but no piezo signal.  I cannot 
remember
> if Rolands have high or low piezo outputs, but the attenuator 
switch
> on the back would be worth a try.  Also, possibly the gain & 
minimum
> velocity.
> 
> If it were me, I would just by the Yamaha pads from Thomann - no
> mounting problems, no interface problems and cheaper.  That is, 
unless
> you are after a mesh pad.  I am planning to try a Pintech 
Concertcast
> snare which is dual piezo, but then I have an interface I designed 
to
> modify the signals and the equipment to look at signals to modify 
them
> to suit the Yamaha if necessary.
> 
> Keith.
>