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Re: help:clipping on powered speakers

2009-03-12 by micklean1953

Hi Folks!

I'm late to the party on this question and I can't seem to find the original post.

Anyway, a "compressor" is not the way to go.  Get yourself a Behringer B2092A Studio Subwoofer.. Nice box, 360 watts with a built in crossover that I use to send the highs to a couple of Behringer MS-40's on "ear level" stands.

This configuration sends the LOW notes and the HIGH notes to the proper powered speakers that were meant to deal with said notes and it still has a couple of R/L output lines to send to the "house" PA.

Hope this helps!

Out
Mick













--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "niceguycolumbus1" <niceguycolumbus1@...> wrote:
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> this sounds like a solution.
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, dustin howard <racetruck420@> wrote:
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> > For this purpose a compressor is the right tool for the job. It will allow you too have much higher overall volume before clipping. Properly set-up it will remove the extreme peaks inherent in the electric kit. Google on tips to set it up. Behringer makes very usuable compressors for the money. Hope ive helped! 
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> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, niceguycolumbus1 <niceguycolumbus1@> wrote:
> > From: niceguycolumbus1 <niceguycolumbus1@>
> > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: help:clipping on powered speakers
> > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:37 PM
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> >             Keith thanks for all your help. I feel quite inept at this. I rarely ever post to forums asking for help â€"  a combination of common sense and "reading the manual" typically gets me to the right result. 
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> > However, this thing has me stumped.  I just want to plug and play. ?!?!?!?!
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> > There is actually a 5 band EQ on the speaker. Dropping the base does not seem to do anything significant. Plus, I get clipping on all drum hits, it's just more obvious with the bass. So, I don't think an EQ will be the solution.
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> > The bottom line here is that if I drop all input signals low enough or drop the master volume enough to reduce clipping, I am not putting out much sound. It kind of defeats the purpose of buying the speakers in the first place. My goal was a simple ability to have a live monitor alternative to headphones, plus the ability to gig a bit with it. 
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> > I'm not looking to blow out the walls, so 1000w is beyond what I had in mind in terms of power and $$.
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> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroup s.com, "Keith" <keith@> wrote:
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> > > Doug,
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> > > Two things you could do to reduce the bass:
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> > > 1. make sure there is no bass boost on the DTXpress - utility menu EQ Lo=0
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> > > 2. put an equaliser between the DTXpress and the amp.  I have a cheap & nasty Behringer 9 channel one - it works OK but is a horrible plastic thing (unlike the Xenyx mixer I have which is well built).
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> > > I don't think you have an equaliser on the amp, otherwise you could use that.
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> > > It is a while since I looked into clipping, but assuming things haven't changed much, the problem with clipping is that a nice low frequency sine wave gets the top chopped off.  This creates lots of high frequency harmonics which sound awful and blow up your tweeters.  With a bi-amped design that is less of a problem because the bass distortion cannot get to the tweeter.
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> > > If the clipping is not a sharp cut off, but "soft clipping" the waveform is more rounded, not as noticeable audibly and not as likely to blow anything up.
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> > > You may get some overheating of the amplifier or loudspeaker, although I would expect most amps to have a thermal trip in them.
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> > > So, if your DTXpress equaliser is already at zero, you could buy a separate one to reduce the bass a bit (or even reduce the kick volume in the kit setup) or play and keep your fingers crossed while saving up for that 1000W PA.  
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> > > Keith.
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