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Re: accented note on snare don't work while i hit another pad !

2002-11-22 by dopmi

what's you problem with you trigger ? 

--- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> Cool - I like it when things are working!  Now if I
> can get mine working too, we'll be happy.  Have a
> great weekend!  Walt
> --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > Hi Walt , the problem was Specific Rej , when you
> > are too much into 
> > something you don't do it well sometime , when you
> > talked to me about 
> > specific rejec in my mind it was on the same "page"
> > as Rej and and 
> > Self Rej , then when you ask me to tell you for
> > level of specific 
> > reject i see that i didn't yet change that level , i
> > set it to 0 and 
> > now all work fine .
> > Thank You ;-))
> > Stephane
> >  
> > --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stephane,
> > > 
> > > Do the ghost notes still work OK when you are
> > playing
> > > the snare by itself?  If so, then the next thing I
> > > will need to look at is some of the snare trigger
> > > settings.  Can you tell me what you have set for
> > the
> > > snare trigger for the Gain, Min. gain, Pad type,
> > Rej,
> > > Self rej and Specific rej?  Also, when you hit the
> > > snare pad as hard as you can, about what level
> > shows
> > > up on the Level Display ( on the screen where you
> > set
> > > the gain - you want to adjust the gain so it shows
> > > about 100% when hit real hard).  Also, what model
> > pad
> > > are you using for your snare?
> > > 
> > > If it was a bad pad or cable, I would not expect
> > the
> > > soft hits to not work at all, but you could swap
> > the
> > > pad and cable with one of your toms to be sure -
> > these
> > > kits have fooled me before.
> > > 
> > > I still think this is a trigger setting problem -
> > when
> > > you look at the module from a basic level, it has
> > two
> > > sections - the trigger settings and the voice
> > > settings.  The trigger settings control how the
> > > electronic signals are sensed by the module (which
> > one
> > > was hit, how hard was it hit, what type of pad it
> > is,
> > > that type of thing) - the voice setting determine
> > what
> > > sounds to make when the hit is sensed by the
> > module. 
> > >  
> > > --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Walt , i have just reduce like you said the
> > Rej
> > > > parameter of snare 
> > > > pad to 0 and still same problem , i try to
> > reduce to
> > > > only 1 or 2 and 
> > > > still the ghost note of snare don't work while i
> > hti
> > > > another pad , i 
> > > > have wrote on paper the default setting of those
> > > > parameter to not 
> > > > have to reset again but as even with 0 on rej
> > > > parameter on snare pad 
> > > > and problem still here is it really a trigger
> > > > parameter problem ? 
> > > > 
> > > > > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting
> > trigger
> > > > > problems all week too.
> > > > 
> > > > that make me feel less alone ;-))
> > > > 
> > > > Thank's for you help 
> > > > Stephane
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Isn't it fun to try to get your kit set up
> > right? 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > First, if ghost notes are working OK when you
> > play
> > > > > only the snare, that that tells us you should
> > have
> > > > > enough sensitivity to pick up those easy hits.
> > 
> > > > This
> > > > > may not mean that you may not need to raise
> > the
> > > > > sensitivity later, but for now leave it where
> > you
> > > > have
> > > > > it.  If ghost notes are not working properly
> > when
> > > > you
> > > > > play only the snare, then you may want to
> > increase
> > > > the
> > > > > gain in the trigger settings until ghost notes
> > do
> > > > > work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The next thing to look at, now that the ghost
> > > > notes
> > > > > are not working when you hit other pads,
> > should be
> > > > the
> > > > > rejection parameter (not self rej or specific
> > > > rej)-
> > > > > which is the only rejection parameter that
> > impacts
> > > > the
> > > > > playing of all other pads.  Yesterday, when
> > the
> > > > > problem was only when you played the HH, we
> > only
> > > > > looked at specificific rejection.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would change the Rej parameter in the snare
> > > > trigger
> > > > > settings to 0, then try playing ghost notes
> > and
> > > > other
> > > > > pads to see if they work.  If they do, then I
> > > > would
> > > > > play hard on the other pads to see if the
> > snare
> > > > > triggers from the other pads vibrations.  If
> > it
> > > > does,
> > > > > then I would increase the value of the
> > rejection
> > > > by 1,
> > > > > and try again.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting
> > trigger
> > > > > problems all week too.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Walt
> > > > > --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > > > i finaly reset all and now it's not only
> > between
> > > > > > snare and hit hat 
> > > > > > that ghost snare don't work sometime but
> > when i
> > > > play
> > > > > > snare with any 
> > > > > > other pad ... ;-((( , strange cause it's not
> > the
> > > > > > first time i 
> > > > > > practice ghost note and i never had this
> > problem
> > > > > > before , that may be 
> > > > > > a snare pad problem ?
> > > > > > Stephane
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., Jim Tonak <ratzo@t...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:43:24 +0100, you
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >And that is less of a disaster if you use
> > > > > > DTXChange to backup your 
> > > > > > settings
> > > > > > > >over a MIDI link ;-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yeah, that's something I'd really like to
> > > > have.  I
> > > > > > need to get a
> > > > > > > cable.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > > ratzo@t...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >
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