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Re: [DTXpress] Re: accented note on snare don't work while i hit another pad !

2002-11-22 by Walt

I just upgraded to a new module and I am having a
tough time with my ride and HHs - I'll get them
working - it's just a mater of time...Walt 

--- dopmi <mapod@...> wrote:
> what's you problem with you trigger ? 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Cool - I like it when things are working!  Now if
> I
> > can get mine working too, we'll be happy.  Have a
> > great weekend!  Walt
> > --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > Hi Walt , the problem was Specific Rej , when
> you
> > > are too much into 
> > > something you don't do it well sometime , when
> you
> > > talked to me about 
> > > specific rejec in my mind it was on the same
> "page"
> > > as Rej and and 
> > > Self Rej , then when you ask me to tell you for
> > > level of specific 
> > > reject i see that i didn't yet change that level
> , i
> > > set it to 0 and 
> > > now all work fine .
> > > Thank You ;-))
> > > Stephane
> > >  
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > > 
> > > > Do the ghost notes still work OK when you are
> > > playing
> > > > the snare by itself?  If so, then the next
> thing I
> > > > will need to look at is some of the snare
> trigger
> > > > settings.  Can you tell me what you have set
> for
> > > the
> > > > snare trigger for the Gain, Min. gain, Pad
> type,
> > > Rej,
> > > > Self rej and Specific rej?  Also, when you hit
> the
> > > > snare pad as hard as you can, about what level
> > > shows
> > > > up on the Level Display ( on the screen where
> you
> > > set
> > > > the gain - you want to adjust the gain so it
> shows
> > > > about 100% when hit real hard).  Also, what
> model
> > > pad
> > > > are you using for your snare?
> > > > 
> > > > If it was a bad pad or cable, I would not
> expect
> > > the
> > > > soft hits to not work at all, but you could
> swap
> > > the
> > > > pad and cable with one of your toms to be sure
> -
> > > these
> > > > kits have fooled me before.
> > > > 
> > > > I still think this is a trigger setting
> problem -
> > > when
> > > > you look at the module from a basic level, it
> has
> > > two
> > > > sections - the trigger settings and the voice
> > > > settings.  The trigger settings control how
> the
> > > > electronic signals are sensed by the module
> (which
> > > one
> > > > was hit, how hard was it hit, what type of pad
> it
> > > is,
> > > > that type of thing) - the voice setting
> determine
> > > what
> > > > sounds to make when the hit is sensed by the
> > > module. 
> > > >  
> > > > --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Walt , i have just reduce like you said
> the
> > > Rej
> > > > > parameter of snare 
> > > > > pad to 0 and still same problem , i try to
> > > reduce to
> > > > > only 1 or 2 and 
> > > > > still the ghost note of snare don't work
> while i
> > > hti
> > > > > another pad , i 
> > > > > have wrote on paper the default setting of
> those
> > > > > parameter to not 
> > > > > have to reset again but as even with 0 on
> rej
> > > > > parameter on snare pad 
> > > > > and problem still here is it really a
> trigger
> > > > > parameter problem ? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting
> > > trigger
> > > > > > problems all week too.
> > > > > 
> > > > > that make me feel less alone ;-))
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank's for you help 
> > > > > Stephane
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Stephane,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Isn't it fun to try to get your kit set up
> > > right? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > First, if ghost notes are working OK when
> you
> > > play
> > > > > > only the snare, that that tells us you
> should
> > > have
> > > > > > enough sensitivity to pick up those easy
> hits.
> > > 
> > > > > This
> > > > > > may not mean that you may not need to
> raise
> > > the
> > > > > > sensitivity later, but for now leave it
> where
> > > you
> > > > > have
> > > > > > it.  If ghost notes are not working
> properly
> > > when
> > > > > you
> > > > > > play only the snare, then you may want to
> > > increase
> > > > > the
> > > > > > gain in the trigger settings until ghost
> notes
> > > do
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The next thing to look at, now that the
> ghost
> > > > > notes
> > > > > > are not working when you hit other pads,
> > > should be
> > > > > the
> > > > > > rejection parameter (not self rej or
> specific
> > > > > rej)-
> > > > > > which is the only rejection parameter that
> > > impacts
> > > > > the
> > > > > > playing of all other pads.  Yesterday,
> when
> > > the
> > > > > > problem was only when you played the HH,
> we
> > > only
> > > > > > looked at specificific rejection.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I would change the Rej parameter in the
> snare
> > > > > trigger
> > > > > > settings to 0, then try playing ghost
> notes
> > > and
> > > > > other
> > > > > > pads to see if they work.  If they do,
> then I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > play hard on the other pads to see if the
> > > snare
> > > > > > triggers from the other pads vibrations. 
> If
> > > it
> > > > > does,
> > > > > > then I would increase the value of the
> > > rejection
> > > > > by 1,
> > > > > > and try again.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting
> > > trigger
> > > > > > problems all week too.
> > > > > > 
> 
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