Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Brian, thanks for the info. It's good to know that that certain 
Hart products and Yamaha electronics can play nice together. My 
problem was with the newer bronze ride cymbal, and I wasn't alone. 
Others have had difficulty integrating the metal hats and the 
Acusnare. If ever there was a cymbal that I wanted to keep, it was 
the ECII ride, but it wasn't to be. A happy Roland TD8 user now owns 
what was once mine. Another member of this group (and of others) who 
uses the DTXTU has been discussing the compatibility issue with 
Peter Hart. It can only help. It would be nice to see e-drum makers 
taking account of both Roland and Yamaha in their designs when 
possible. It's starting to happen. Stay tuned.


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Briaan Storm <drumminbrian@y...> 
wrote:
> Hey Y'all,
>    I've managed to integrate Hart equipment into my
> DTX 2.0 quite well. It took time and asking lots of
> trigger and voice editing questions. I'm going to try
> to put it in a nutshell for you, as I'm currently
> working six eleven hour days a week.  I'm using a dual
> trigger Accupad for my snare, using a Hosa yp117
> splitter into inputs one and ten, so I actually only
> play(user editable) kits one through thirtytwo.When I
> want to use a kit from kits 32 through 64, I save my
> trigger edits to a kit in 1-32. I also use the Hart
> series ten ride, splitting the dual signal into inputs
> 11 and 12, and a series ten crash into input 6 and a
> hart ECymbal into input 7. I also use the Hart kick
> drum. I use the rest of the tp80s for everything else.
> the pcys are in a bin somewhere and Drumbalaya has my
> old kicks.
>     I went into trigger edit mode on every kit,and,
> using both the DTX manual and the 2.0 update
> supplement, I started out by going to trigger edit
> page eleven and reassigning the triggers as follows:
>     Accupad head: voice 31
>     Accupad rim:  voice 34
>     Left crash:   voice 49
>     Right crash:  voice 55
>     Series Ten ride: main trigger gets voice 59(?) and
> then the bell gets whatever the pcy rim triggered(I
> think 53 0r 56.)
>     You can get the details in the back of your
> manual, the info I've provided is just to get you
> started. If you screw it up, reinitialize your module
> and try it again. Once you familiarize yourself with
> your module's layout, you will be alot more
> confortable with it. BTW, say "HI" to Binky and Paul
> for me the next time you talk to Hart. I plan to send
> a wiring/trigger edit map of my kit to the group as
> well as to the guys at Hart. I haven't gotten to it
> yet, because I'm so busy right now and the fact that
> although this may be very useful info,I AM working
> with a module that Yamaha no longer sells.
>         Good Luck,                                    
> Brian (aka SupraMan!)    
>  --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > I communicated with the ebay seller of the Hart hh
> > and Acusnare. He 
> > couldn't get them to work with the DTX v2.0. He
> > spoke with someone 
> > at Hart who claimed that the company was aware of
> > the problems with 
> > the DTX line and currently working on solving them
> > (no one at Hart 
> > has yet returned my call). I'm on the verge of
> > parting with my ride, 
> > but if someone has a possible fix, or successful
> > trigger/pad/voice 
> > setup, I'd love to try it. Hart is a great company
> > that makes very 
> > good equipment.
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Matt Pobursky
> > <ccsuser@m...> wrote:
> > > I've been quietly watching this thread, but now
> > decided to post my
> > > experiences.
> > > 
> > > I have a Hart MegaPro set and DTXtreme module. I'm
> > also using the 
> > Hart
> > > Ecymbal II's (HH, Ride, 12" and 14" crash
> > w/choke). I've had the 
> > kit
> > > since last September and am still
> > tweaking/learning.
> > > 
> > > When I bought the kit (from Drumbalaya -- highly
> > recommended -- 
> > they
> > > are great!), Ed told me they didn't have any
> > experience with Hart 
> > kits
> > > mated to a Yamaha DTXtreme and I might have to do
> > some serious 
> > tweaking
> > > to get things all sorted out. Since I was in no
> > hurry, I decided to
> > > give it a go.
> > > 
> > > So far, I have everything triggering and working
> > well except my 
> > snare.
> > > It's close, but not quite there yet. I did however
> > get the HH and 
> > ride
> > > working after quite a bit of tweaking. The HH was
> > least 
> > troublesome,
> > > but the ride took some time. I don't have the
> > specific settings 
> > handy
> > > right now but I do recall I serious trouble with
> > cross-triggering 
> > on
> > > the bell and ride pad. I messed with the
> > > gain/velocity/rejection/specific rejection for
> > some time until I 
> > found
> > > a "sweet spot". Since then, the ride works very
> > well.
> > > 
> > > I'm swamped with work right now, but if I can
> > sneak away a little 
> > time
> > > I'll try to post the final trigger settings I'm
> > using for the HH 
> > and
> > > ride cymbals.
> > > 
> > > I had virtually no problems with the two crash
> > cymbals, although I 
> > find
> > > the choke function to be kind of hit/miss.
> > Probably user error
> > > though...
> > > 
> > > Matt 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 23:17:10 -0000, liberatusvirus
> > "
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Cary, 
> > > > 
> > > > That's good to know about the Acusnare; the
> > seller on ebay 
> > appears to
> > > > be mistaken. I hope someone using the hats or
> > the ride will 
> > confirm
> > > > or deny my report. I know of one person besides
> > me who can't get 
> > the
> > > > ride to work well via Yamaha. By the way, I
> > posted about the 
> > Zenbal a
> > > > couple of months or so ago. Pound for pound and
> > dollar for 
> > dollar, I
> > > > think it's the best cymbal to come down the pike
> > in a long time.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ed 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "chitsman
> > <chitsman@s...>" 
> > > > <chitsman@s...> wrote:
> > > > > Ed-
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the information on the Hart cymbal.
> > We all 
> > appreciate
> > > > it.
> > > > > I for one would like to let everyone know that
> > the Accusnare 
> > does 
> > > > > work with the Yamaha DTXPU AND DTX2U. I have
> > been using it with
> > > > great
> > > > > success.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you tried the Zenbal from Pintech? I've
> > heard great things
> > > > about
> > > > > that cymbal.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cary
> > 
> > 
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