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Re: New User with Questions

2000-02-27 by Ken Anthony

Rich,
I've been recording midi off the dtxpress for about 2 months now.

You may be sending a 'midi volume 0' to channel 10 to the dtxpress,
which sticks
until you reset or send 'midi volume x' to channel 10. I saw a similar
affect using NTRACK studio.

I'm recording like this:
dtxpress -> sound card --> seq software / thru on --> sound card -->
dtxpress

local mode: off

I'm having a big problem with NTRACK studio because of the way
it records midi, but haven't had any problems with other software.
( quartz audio, etc. ). What happens is I'll record about 5 minutes
of midi via dtxpress, hit the stop button, and have to wait almost
a minute while NTRACK processes it's buffers. No other midi seq does
this.
It drops a lot of notes, and thru mode suffers delays or drop outs.

Also, I've noticed that while playing dtxpress overdubs after I've
recorded
analog tracks causes a heavy latency ( you describe as 16th note delays
).

It appears many of these packages concentrate
so heavily on getting the audio portions to play in sync that midi
is a secondary concern.

I know my timing is not the best, but when i play back the midi
recordings
i cringe :)

For best results i have to record all the midi first, then lay down
analog.

fyi: there's something wrong in the world when 5 years ago i could
record
real time to a DOS midi seqencer ( voyetra ) , and Windows just can't
keep up
with a simple low speed serial midi stream. 

What software are you using?


Rich wrote:
> 
> From: "Rich" <rich@...>
> 
> Thanks for the info, Andy.  Much appreciated!  The Guitar center finally got
> me the manual, but Yamaha wasn't as specific as you are.
> 
> Having a MIDI problem.  Its happened twice where connected to a sequencer
> the brain stops making noise on channel 10 in local off mode.  All the
> channels send and receive except channel 10.  I toggled all the global midi
> switches but can't get ch 10 back till I re initialize the machine (after
> saving sysex, which seems to work really well).  I'm stumped. Anyone know if
> this is a known bug?  Anyone having trouble with midi sequencers with this
> unit?  Sometimes I am hearing delays of almost a 16th note playing over midi
> at random intervals and i have a fast interface (8portse).  Wondering if I
> am expecting too much to get tight live drums tracks in Logic with the
> dtxpress.
> 
> I suspect there's an gremlin OS in the box.  I still have a few weeks where
> I can take it back.  I'd love to hear others experiences.   There is a lot
> to like in the DTxpress, but if it can't record over midi i have to
> reconsider.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rich
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sanctum@...>
> To: <DTXpress@onelist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 4:46 AM
> Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New User with Questions
> 
> > From: sanctum@...
> >
> >
> >
> > In response to this question:
> >
> > 3rd question--Given that the answer to #2 is yes, has anyone tried
> > rigging up a stereo "Y" adapter to the trigger inputs and thereby
> > running two "mono" pads off the same trigger input?  Does that work?
> > I am so used to having more sounds immediately available i already
> > want more pads, and it seem like I could add quite a few more if this
> > worked without getting another brain.
> >
> >
> > The answer is Yes, but only for dual input 9/10.  All the other inputs are
> stereo, but the rim trigger system relies on an inverter circuit (in the
> brain) triggered from a condensor circuit rim trigger.  I was working on
> home made condensor triggers, but apathy has set in.  Maybe one day I'll get
> back onto it, but right now my kit isn't even in my own house, so I don't
> get to see it much, long story.
> >
> > As for using stereo pads of other manufacturers, well we've been over this
> ground, and the only hing to do is check with the manufacturer first, they
> will be able to tell you.
> >
> > Regards
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
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