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Re: cannot play many note too close

2003-01-24 by dopmi <mapod@wanadoo.fr>

Hi Ed , yep it was self rejection the problem ... it was set to 9 
because sometime when i hit on the border of the cymbal pad i have 
the sound of the center ( center have splash and border crash sound ) 
ok i'll try another seeting so 
Thank's 

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
<liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Stephane,
> 
> Did you try lowering the self-rejection number? That's the obvious 
> villain if you can't get the cymbal to work for a couple of seconds 
> after you hit it. You could also try raising the gain and lowering 
> the min. velocity. 
> 
> Your recent message said something about the snare, rather than the 
> cymbal, as the pad that mutes. If it's the snare that won't work 
> after you hit the cymbal, then the specific rejection of the cymbal 
> from the snare is set too high; the snare has no room to operate 
> when both are hit together. Also, you didn't, by any chance, mess 
> with the gate time of the input while you were toying with MIDI, 
did 
> you? If I'm missing the point again, do you want to try sending me 
a 
> new message in simple French at my Yahoo address? I can use the 
> practice, though I can't guarantee the results.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" <mapod@w...> 
> wrote:
> > Hi Ed , no i had just used the strero cable of my snare for my 
> stereo 
> > cymbal pad until i buy another stereo cable ( the mono cable was 
> on 
> > snare ) but forget about this cable mix cause to be sure that 
it's 
> > not a cable problem i go back to original cable , but problem 
> still 
> > here , i have to wait 2 or 3 sec before i can play a second note 
> on 
> > my snare pad :-((( 
> > what can do that thing ?
> > Stephane
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...>" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stephane,
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure that I understand your connection from the pad to 
> the 
> > > module. Ordinarily, I'd recommend that you lower the cymbal's 
> self-
> > > rejection number to see if that helps. But how can you be using 
> the 
> > > same stereo cable for both the snare and the cymbal? Are you 
> using 
> > a 
> > > splitter from the snare and cymbal into a single stereo cable 
> that 
> > > attaches to input 2 so that you can use them at the same time? 
> If 
> > > so, it simply won't work, whether your splitter is stereo, 
mono, 
> or 
> > > some combination of the two. How can you even program input 2 
to 
> > > receive independent snare and cymbal sounds--by rim and body or 
> > > voice 1 and voice 2? You should be getting a mix of snare and 
> > cymbal 
> > > sounds on each pad regardless. Get a new cable and plug the 
> cymbal 
> > > into 9/10. Understand, however, that you will not get the rim 
> sound 
> > > on it, because input 9/10 only picks up one mono pad, two mono 
> > pads, 
> > > or one dual-mono pad. I hope I haven't completely missed your 
> point.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "dopmi <mapod@w...>" 
> <mapod@w...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi , i have one of my cymbal pad ( Yamaha stereo ) it's a 
> second 
> > > pad 
> > > > and on this one the ride surface is for a splash , the 
problem 
> is 
> > > > that i have to wait 2 or 3 seconde before i can play a second 
> > note 
> > > on 
> > > > this surface , i first think it was because i use a long 
decay 
> > for 
> > > > this splash but even if i reduce decay and make it to 0 the 
> > > problem 
> > > > still here .... 
> > > > one thing i have to say is that for now as i don't yet have a 
> > > enough 
> > > > stereo cable for this new streo cymbal pad i use the stereo 
> cable 
> > > of 
> > > > the snare pad and snare pad entry too for this cymbal pad 
> > > > anybody can help me ?
> > > > Thank's
> > > > Stephane

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