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RE: New User with Questions

2000-02-28 by Brow, Paul [LTS]

Ken,
Try filtering out sysex from the DTXpress - its got active sensing (don't understand fully) but it seems to constantly output midi information if the UT sync mode is set to internal or auto. 

Paul Brow
Principal Learning Officer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Ken Anthony [SMTP:info@...]
> Sent:	Sunday, February 27, 2000 7:27 PM
> To:	DTXpress@onelist.com
> Subject:	Re: [DTXpress] New User with Questions
> 
> From: Ken Anthony <info@...>
> 
> Rich,
> I've been recording midi off the dtxpress for about 2 months now.
> 
> You may be sending a 'midi volume 0' to channel 10 to the dtxpress,
> which sticks
> until you reset or send 'midi volume x' to channel 10. I saw a similar
> affect using NTRACK studio.
> 
> I'm recording like this:
> dtxpress -> sound card --> seq software / thru on --> sound card -->
> dtxpress
> 
> local mode: off
> 
> I'm having a big problem with NTRACK studio because of the way
> it records midi, but haven't had any problems with other software.
> ( quartz audio, etc. ). What happens is I'll record about 5 minutes
> of midi via dtxpress, hit the stop button, and have to wait almost
> a minute while NTRACK processes it's buffers. No other midi seq does
> this.
> It drops a lot of notes, and thru mode suffers delays or drop outs.
> 
> Also, I've noticed that while playing dtxpress overdubs after I've
> recorded
> analog tracks causes a heavy latency ( you describe as 16th note delays
> ).
> 
> It appears many of these packages concentrate
> so heavily on getting the audio portions to play in sync that midi
> is a secondary concern.
> 
> I know my timing is not the best, but when i play back the midi
> recordings
> i cringe :)
> 
> For best results i have to record all the midi first, then lay down
> analog.
> 
> fyi: there's something wrong in the world when 5 years ago i could
> record
> real time to a DOS midi seqencer ( voyetra ) , and Windows just can't
> keep up
> with a simple low speed serial midi stream. 
> 
> What software are you using?
> 
> 
> Rich wrote:
> > 
> > From: "Rich" <rich@...>
> > 
> > Thanks for the info, Andy.  Much appreciated!  The Guitar center finally got
> > me the manual, but Yamaha wasn't as specific as you are.
> > 
> > Having a MIDI problem.  Its happened twice where connected to a sequencer
> > the brain stops making noise on channel 10 in local off mode.  All the
> > channels send and receive except channel 10.  I toggled all the global midi
> > switches but can't get ch 10 back till I re initialize the machine (after
> > saving sysex, which seems to work really well).  I'm stumped. Anyone know if
> > this is a known bug?  Anyone having trouble with midi sequencers with this
> > unit?  Sometimes I am hearing delays of almost a 16th note playing over midi
> > at random intervals and i have a fast interface (8portse).  Wondering if I
> > am expecting too much to get tight live drums tracks in Logic with the
> > dtxpress.
> > 
> > I suspect there's an gremlin OS in the box.  I still have a few weeks where
> > I can take it back.  I'd love to hear others experiences.   There is a lot
> > to like in the DTxpress, but if it can't record over midi i have to
> > reconsider.
> > 
> > Best,
> > 
> > Rich
> > Unique Sample CD Roms and SoundFonts
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sanctum@...>
> > To: <DTXpress@onelist.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 4:46 AM
> > Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New User with Questions
> > 
> > > From: sanctum@...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In response to this question:
> > >
> > > 3rd question--Given that the answer to #2 is yes, has anyone tried
> > > rigging up a stereo "Y" adapter to the trigger inputs and thereby
> > > running two "mono" pads off the same trigger input?  Does that work?
> > > I am so used to having more sounds immediately available i already> 
> > > want more pads, and it seem like I could add quite a few more if this
> > > worked without getting another brain.
> > >
> > >
> > > The answer is Yes, but only for dual input 9/10.  All the other inputs are
> > stereo, but the rim trigger system relies on an inverter circuit (in the
> > brain) triggered from a condensor circuit rim trigger.  I was working on
> > home made condensor triggers, but apathy has set in.  Maybe one day I'll get
> > back onto it, but right now my kit isn't even in my own house, so I don't
> > get to see it much, long story.
> > >
> > > As for using stereo pads of other manufacturers, well we've been over this
> > ground, and the only hing to do is check with the manufacturer first, they
> > will be able to tell you.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
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