Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

OK Jade,

Let's see how far I can get before my brain melts down
-   Look below for my thoughts.  Walt
--- "jadiebooshkie <jadiebooshkie@...>"
<jadiebooshkie@...> wrote:
> I KNOW I have been told about rejection...I am
> having a time with my 
> snare-HH-and bass drum.  I can't seem to pin point
> WHERE this static 
> sound is coming from(snare/HH/BD).  It seems to
> happen if and when 
> all three are triggered at the same time...so how do
> I set 
> rejections on all three, and what input rejects
> what?  It sounds 
> confusing. 

OK, first, you use the word static.  That bothers me
because the rejection settings really prevent you from
hearing a pad's sound when you're not hitting that
pad.    Say, for example, you hit your crash, and you
hear the tom just below it also sound off.  Tweaking
the rejection settings can help that problem.  The key
here is that you will hear another pad's sound, not
static.     Before we go to much further on this one,
can you verify that you're really hearing static,
instead of just using that word to describe something
not working right?  
 
> Tonite I wrote down ALL my custom kit settings on
> that trigger map 
> sheet, and I was reminded about how LITTLE I know
> about this kit.  I 
> wanna hook up my MidiKITI, and plug in the extra
> cymbals and pads, 
> but I feel like I will be opening up a Pandora's
> box, as I still 
> have a TON of learnin' to do on the DTX!! 

Don't we all!

> Well...ok...that's how I 
> mastered my computer...dealing with problems! I'll
> get the hang of 
> this but it just don't seem to come fast enough!

We all had a first time!

>   It's having a bunch of great guys in this forum 
> that help thick skulled folks like me finally learn
> what the DTX is 
> all about. Many thanks for your guidance and
> patience. 

Ed is blushing!!!

 That being 
> said...here goes...
> Some of the note numbers are all used up,
> specifically my HH. In V=1 
> my note is 52, but for V=2 it says "all notes
> taken"...HOW can I 
> reverse that, or delete it from memory and start
> over?

The short answer is that the rules for the HH are
different from the rest of the pads - you can only
assign one sound to each of the HH functions (open,
close, splash, foot close).  


> What is AltG for and what does it DO?  I have most
> of my pads set 
> on  SEMI, except for snare/crash...that is on POLY,
> what does this 
> mean or do?

Again, the short answer is that because all of the HH
functions are set to the same Alternate Group )AltG),
only one of them will sound at a time.  For example,
you can't have to Open and close sounds play together,
that wouldn't be natural.  If the open sound is
playing, and you step on the pedal, the DTX will stop
the open sound and start playing the closed sound
instead.  

> HOLD is set to OFF on all pads...what would happen
> if I turned it on?

The sound will keep playing until you hit the pad
again.

> KEY OFF is set to DISABLE...what would happen if it
> is enabled?

MIDI terminology is commonly based on Keyboards - a
Key On is what happens when you press down a key on a
keyboard.  Usually you want this to start something
(like a voice or maybe a song).  If you keep holding
that key down, the thing you started should continue. 
Key Off is what happens when you release the key, and
usually you want that to stop whatever you started
when you pressed the key.  Now, if we think in terms
of the DTX, that explanation may lead you to wonder
'if I have Key Off set to Disable, why don't the
voices all keep playing'?  Most drum sounds are like
digital recordings of real drums, and they do not go
on forever, so this parameter doesn't really impact
them. There are some keyboard voices in the DTX that
if used, with Key Off set to disable, will keep on
playing like the Enegizer Bunny, until you press the
Shift and Voice keys on the DTX to stop them.  

> FUNCTION on all pads is set to NORMAL-what's this
> do?

You can have pads play sounds (Normal), or control the
playing of one of the internal songs (Pad Song),
control the Click sound (Click On/Off), or the other
stuff in  the manual.

> This PAD SONG thing-does that mean if I hit a
> certain pad, that one 
> of the preset songs in the DTX will start/stop?

Yup

> AND HERE'S A REAL GOOD ONE....I have "tom1" only
> programmed for 2 
> voices, when I got into mapping these settings, I
> saw that there was 
> a setting for "tom1R" and "tom2R" as well as
> settings 
> for "open", "openR", "close/closeR".  Does this mean
> I have to have 
> settings (voices) assigned to these, or are they for
> dual or triple 
> zone pads like the TP80S?

Most likely, User kits are usually based on predefined
kits, and they usually have sounds assigned for all of
the pads.  The DTX is set up for 2 voices (V=1 or 2)
per pad, except for the HH as we talked about above,
and another voice for those pads that have Rim
triggers (the R in Tom1R or OpenR)

> Also what does "COPY TO INPUT" mean?  If I copy the
> saved settings 
> for say HH which is physically in input 8, and saved
> them to INPUT 8 
> does that mean input 8 has just my saved HH settings
> or does it have 
> the HH settings PLUS my saved user kit?  

You can use this to save just the voice settings.  If
you are in a User Kit, that's where they'll go.  It
does not save the entire user kit, that is done on the
main panel via the save function.  You can also use
this to copy your voice settings to another pad - an
easy way to make a carbon copy of them.  

AND WHERE
> is input 8?  How 
> do I acess that input?  

You can't - you can only access it via Open, OpenR,
Close, CloseR, Splash and Foot Close - in other words,
the HH functions.


Am I making this too
> complicated?
> Iknow...I know...read the manuel!  I have, but under
> some of the 
> explanations for some of these things asked,there is
> only given 
> vague 
> information.  I really don't wanna mess up my custom
> kit by 
> experimenting. I am having enough trouble with
> rejection, gain and 
> all.
> 
> Also..one more time on the HH...should GAIN be set
> high or low, I 
> have mine set at 20...could this be why I am getting
> cross talk?
> Appreciate all your help and suggestions, and
> patience with me!!!
> Jade:)
> 
> 

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