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Re: Rejection Question..and a few more

2003-02-15 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Scott,

Do you hear it when you run through a monitor, amp, or PA--that is, 
w/o phones?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger <artifax@i...>" 
<artifax@i...> wrote:
> Jade
> I too have had some distortion from the DTX. I notice that when I 
play 
>  certain kick drum sounds, especially with a crash, I will get 
some 
> distortion. It is coming from the DTX. When I go thru a mixer, 
Even 
> wwhen all levels are at unity gain or lower, it is still there. I 
have 
> compensated by reducing the offending kick/crash levels, or 
changing 
> voices. Most of my sounds are up near max volume in the unit, the 
> loudest ones at 127, the others keyed off of them, down to about 
100.
> I have tried several headphones and mixer settings. It is the DTX!
> Anybody else have similar clipping?
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jadiebooshkie 
<jadiebooshkie@y...>" 
> <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > Walt...it MAY be my stupid headphones AGAIN!!  I was playing 
today, 
> > and getting ready to start playing w/MidiKITI, I noticed my bass 
> > drum distorting thru the headphones...I turned the volume down, 
and 
> > that helps a little.  What may also have been happening was I 
might 
> > be getting cross talk when all 3 pads were hit from my cymbal 
> > (crash). It was high pitched sounding.  I will be working on the 
> > settings again tonite, and we will see if I can stop this.  I am 
> > running my DTX thru a Peavey RQ200 mixer.
> > So on the HH ...which seems to be the rock in my shoe...all I 
need 
> > is ONE voice setting another voice is useless?...and what about 
the 
> > GAIN, and self reject, specific reject?  I have these both set 
to 1 
> > and to reject the snare.  I ran into my HH not triggering, and 
> > changed the settings...then my snare wouldn't trigger.  Had to 
> > change them back, also.  Thanks for the advice, and Iwill keep 
> > adjusting, the only problems I seem to have is with the HH-snare-
> > BD.  I am hoping that a set of Visu-lite HHs will help eliminate 
> > some of these problems...Jade 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > OK Jade,
> > > 
> > > Let's see how far I can get before my brain melts down
> > > -   Look below for my thoughts.  Walt
> > > --- "jadiebooshkie <jadiebooshkie@y...>"
> > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > I KNOW I have been told about rejection...I am
> > > > having a time with my 
> > > > snare-HH-and bass drum.  I can't seem to pin point
> > > > WHERE this static 
> > > > sound is coming from(snare/HH/BD).  It seems to
> > > > happen if and when 
> > > > all three are triggered at the same time...so how do
> > > > I set 
> > > > rejections on all three, and what input rejects
> > > > what?  It sounds 
> > > > confusing. 
> > > 
> > > OK, first, you use the word static.  That bothers me
> > > because the rejection settings really prevent you from
> > > hearing a pad's sound when you're not hitting that
> > > pad.    Say, for example, you hit your crash, and you
> > > hear the tom just below it also sound off.  Tweaking
> > > the rejection settings can help that problem.  The key
> > > here is that you will hear another pad's sound, not
> > > static.     Before we go to much further on this one,
> > > can you verify that you're really hearing static,
> > > instead of just using that word to describe something
> > > not working right?  
> > >  
> > > > Tonite I wrote down ALL my custom kit settings on
> > > > that trigger map 
> > > > sheet, and I was reminded about how LITTLE I know
> > > > about this kit.  I 
> > > > wanna hook up my MidiKITI, and plug in the extra
> > > > cymbals and pads, 
> > > > but I feel like I will be opening up a Pandora's
> > > > box, as I still 
> > > > have a TON of learnin' to do on the DTX!! 
> > > 
> > > Don't we all!
> > > 
> > > > Well...ok...that's how I 
> > > > mastered my computer...dealing with problems! I'll
> > > > get the hang of 
> > > > this but it just don't seem to come fast enough!
> > > 
> > > We all had a first time!
> > > 
> > > >   It's having a bunch of great guys in this forum 
> > > > that help thick skulled folks like me finally learn
> > > > what the DTX is 
> > > > all about. Many thanks for your guidance and
> > > > patience. 
> > > 
> > > Ed is blushing!!!
> > > 
> > >  That being 
> > > > said...here goes...
> > > > Some of the note numbers are all used up,
> > > > specifically my HH. In V=1 
> > > > my note is 52, but for V=2 it says "all notes
> > > > taken"...HOW can I 
> > > > reverse that, or delete it from memory and start
> > > > over?
> > > 
> > > The short answer is that the rules for the HH are
> > > different from the rest of the pads - you can only
> > > assign one sound to each of the HH functions (open,
> > > close, splash, foot close).  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > What is AltG for and what does it DO?  I have most
> > > > of my pads set 
> > > > on  SEMI, except for snare/crash...that is on POLY,
> > > > what does this 
> > > > mean or do?
> > > 
> > > Again, the short answer is that because all of the HH
> > > functions are set to the same Alternate Group )AltG),
> > > only one of them will sound at a time.  For example,
> > > you can't have to Open and close sounds play together,
> > > that wouldn't be natural.  If the open sound is
> > > playing, and you step on the pedal, the DTX will stop
> > > the open sound and start playing the closed sound
> > > instead.  
> > > 
> > > > HOLD is set to OFF on all pads...what would happen
> > > > if I turned it on?
> > > 
> > > The sound will keep playing until you hit the pad
> > > again.
> > > 
> > > > KEY OFF is set to DISABLE...what would happen if it
> > > > is enabled?
> > > 
> > > MIDI terminology is commonly based on Keyboards - a
> > > Key On is what happens when you press down a key on a
> > > keyboard.  Usually you want this to start something
> > > (like a voice or maybe a song).  If you keep holding
> > > that key down, the thing you started should continue. 
> > > Key Off is what happens when you release the key, and
> > > usually you want that to stop whatever you started
> > > when you pressed the key.  Now, if we think in terms
> > > of the DTX, that explanation may lead you to wonder
> > > 'if I have Key Off set to Disable, why don't the
> > > voices all keep playing'?  Most drum sounds are like
> > > digital recordings of real drums, and they do not go
> > > on forever, so this parameter doesn't really impact
> > > them. There are some keyboard voices in the DTX that
> > > if used, with Key Off set to disable, will keep on
> > > playing like the Enegizer Bunny, until you press the
> > > Shift and Voice keys on the DTX to stop them.  
> > > 
> > > > FUNCTION on all pads is set to NORMAL-what's this
> > > > do?
> > > 
> > > You can have pads play sounds (Normal), or control the
> > > playing of one of the internal songs (Pad Song),
> > > control the Click sound (Click On/Off), or the other
> > > stuff in  the manual.
> > > 
> > > > This PAD SONG thing-does that mean if I hit a
> > > > certain pad, that one 
> > > > of the preset songs in the DTX will start/stop?
> > > 
> > > Yup
> > > 
> > > > AND HERE'S A REAL GOOD ONE....I have "tom1" only
> > > > programmed for 2 
> > > > voices, when I got into mapping these settings, I
> > > > saw that there was 
> > > > a setting for "tom1R" and "tom2R" as well as
> > > > settings 
> > > > for "open", "openR", "close/closeR".  Does this mean
> > > > I have to have 
> > > > settings (voices) assigned to these, or are they for
> > > > dual or triple 
> > > > zone pads like the TP80S?
> > > 
> > > Most likely, User kits are usually based on predefined
> > > kits, and they usually have sounds assigned for all of
> > > the pads.  The DTX is set up for 2 voices (V=1 or 2)
> > > per pad, except for the HH as we talked about above,
> > > and another voice for those pads that have Rim
> > > triggers (the R in Tom1R or OpenR)
> > > 
> > > > Also what does "COPY TO INPUT" mean?  If I copy the
> > > > saved settings 
> > > > for say HH which is physically in input 8, and saved
> > > > them to INPUT 8 
> > > > does that mean input 8 has just my saved HH settings
> > > > or does it have 
> > > > the HH settings PLUS my saved user kit?  
> > > 
> > > You can use this to save just the voice settings.  If
> > > you are in a User Kit, that's where they'll go.  It
> > > does not save the entire user kit, that is done on the
> > > main panel via the save function.  You can also use
> > > this to copy your voice settings to another pad - an
> > > easy way to make a carbon copy of them.  
> > > 
> > > AND WHERE
> > > > is input 8?  How 
> > > > do I acess that input?  
> > > 
> > > You can't - you can only access it via Open, OpenR,
> > > Close, CloseR, Splash and Foot Close - in other words,
> > > the HH functions.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am I making this too
> > > > complicated?
> > > > Iknow...I know...read the manuel!  I have, but under
> > > > some of the 
> > > > explanations for some of these things asked,there is
> > > > only given 
> > > > vague 
> > > > information.  I really don't wanna mess up my custom
> > > > kit by 
> > > > experimenting. I am having enough trouble with
> > > > rejection, gain and 
> > > > all.
> > > > 
> > > > Also..one more time on the HH...should GAIN be set
> > > > high or low, I 
> > > > have mine set at 20...could this be why I am getting
> > > > cross talk?
> > > > Appreciate all your help and suggestions, and
> > > > patience with me!!!
> > > > Jade:)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
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