Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Jade,

Snowing enough for ya? I'll answer best as I can for now below.

> Ed..I want to move my visulite 18 inch ride to the midiKITI, I 
> wanted to use the one sound I have in my personal user kit for it, 
> but I know it has 2 sounds (bell and ride sounds)..I have the Y 
> connector, but Hosa sent the wrong one, I got a stereo male to 2 
> stereo females, and I needed the stereo male to to mono females, 
the 
> guy at the store said it might work, they are reordering the 
YPP117.

The stereo females won't work so let's treat the visulite as a 
single zone ride for now and forget about the bell. If you can 
connect the bow to the kat successfully, you won't have trouble 
later with the bell.

> I plugged in the KITI, I have my midi cables connectec to midi 
> in/midi out on both...WHICH MIDI OUT channel should I use on the 
> KITI..there are 2 MIDI OUTS, the book only shows a diagram and 
> doesn't tell which midi out to use, so I plugged it into the midi 
> out outlet next to the midi in outlet.  

It doesn't matter which midi out you use. At this point, make sure 
that the visulite bow is connected to an input on the kat.

i tried a preset kit, and 
> found a ride sound that changed my #9 pad from the tom sound to a 
> ride cymbal.  I then used the Hosa YPP118 and connected my a mono 
> plugs from the visulite into inputs 1 and 2 on the KITI.  I went 
to 
> the trigger edit of my preset user kit..named it MIDI KITI, and 
> found the sound for pad 9 that changed from tom to ride...the note 
> was #053.  I pressed the AUTOTRAIN on the KITI, and pushed the 
> trigger voice button, theo the 0-5-3 lights were lit in sequence.  
I 
> didn't know what to do next.  

You've gone off track. I'm glad that you got so far as to see the 
note number displayed on the kat. But now you need to be in a user 
kit on the DTX for the next steps. In the interest of simplicity, 
take any kit, whether preset or one of your own, and use it to 
create user kit #80, or just scroll through the kit numbers until 
you reach the last one, #80, which you can name midikiti in the 
voice edit menu sometime if you are so inclined. In that kit 80, 
assign the voice that you'd like for the bow of the visulite to one 
of the pads connected to any input on the DTX. For example, assign 
the cymbal sound C21 (or whatever you prefer) to whatever pad is 
connected to input 6, or whatever input you like. 

Now, remember when I told you that you'd need a new note number for 
that voice rather than the one already assigned in the voice menu? 
If you stay with the default number, you will get whatever sound is 
associated with that INPUT in all of the preset kits. That's because 
the DTX assigns numbers to inputs, not voices, unless you explicitly 
assign numbers to voices instead. Since the numbers go to inputs 
rather than voices, whenever you switch kits, the number--053 in 
your case--will refer to a different voice. What you want to do is 
make sure that when the number stays the same, so does the voice. My 
next paragraph shows you how.

I read the KITI manuel, and it said if 
> I hit the trigger (cymbal) it should play that note...0-5-3 which 
> was a ride cymbal voice.  Well I hit the cymbal and if I hit it 
> hard, I am getting a tomR sound!!!  What the heck am I doing 
wrong?  
> I wanna assign a ride cymbal, and a bell voice to the KITI...HOW 
DO 
> I GET THESE VOICES TO SOUND FOR MY RIDE.  Ther's gotta be 
something 
> I am missing here, the DTX module is set to ch 10...do I need to 
be 
> in a UTILITY MODE PAGE?  

You're getting the tom sound because you haven't specified that your 
chosen voice should have its own number, rather than an input number 
that goes with different voices in different kits. Go into section 
5, Map, in the utility menu. The first page concerns voice. Increase 
the "N" value (note number) until you get one that is free. On the 
next line, assign that free note number to cymbal C21 (or whichever 
one you chose in the last paragraph). The following pages allow you 
to set parameters (volume, pan, tuning, etc.) for this midi voice 
that you've specified for the kat to use by note number. You can 
come back to these parameters. For now, go back into user kit 80 and 
see whether the input on the kat with your visulite ride now takes 
the new number when you hit the appropriate pad connected to the 
DTX. Voila! Now when you hit the visulite, the new note number 
should be displayed on the kat's face. It will no longer matter 
which kit you choose on the DTX; you'll always get the cymbal sound 
that you've asscociated with that number. What remains is to follow 
the manual to set gain etc. on the kat and to finish setting those 
parameters in the utility menu for the voice that you want the kat 
to access when you hit the visulite.


Also, when I plugged in the 2 
> mono jacks from the Vis. cymbal, I noticed that only trigger 1 was 
> lit.  Shouldn't trigger 2 be lit also?  Or is this because the Y 
> adapter is wrong, I should have the stereo male to 2 mono females 
> attaching to 2 mono males into the KITI....can ya help me out?  

The other input on the kat didn't work because the adapter is wrong. 
There's a fairly simple logic to what I've outlined. I haven't gone 
into detail about what to do on the kat after you get the note 
number right. The first few pages of the manual should get you 
there. Read them carefully again until it all sinks in. 

At the risk of confusing you, the point of creating a midikiti kit 
#80 is to give you a convenient place to program pads that you can 
hit to convey note numbers to the kat via the DTX midi out. The kat 
in turn uses its midi out to access the voice info that you 
programmed into the DTX for that note number. I'll have some 
suggestions for how you might use the kat without having to do much 
fussing (many of them can be found in my reply to a post of 
under'heaven's earlier this month). But get this much down first; 
then you can change or expand as you wish. If you have more 
questions, try to keep them simple so that we can tackle them one at 
a time.

Ed