Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

UNH
I will be posting a call to arms...I just got off the
phone with Dave Ksycki at Yam.  He said for me to get
in touch w/Dave Jewell, there MAY be a technical flaw
in our modules...they should work with an external
midi device.  I called Dave J. and left voice mail,
but we ALL need to email him at the following:
DJewell@...
This man can contact Yamaha in Japan, and specifically
the engineers that designed the DTXII, and find out
WHY notes are not being recognized.
The notes I am hearing are keyboard notes...even
thought the numbers are correct.
Jade
--- "underneathheaven <realvast@...>"
<realvast@...> wrote:
> I have not yet heard from steve, but maybe jade has?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, jade
> <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > My sentiments EXACTLY...Thanks UNH!...I haven't
> given
> > up yet either, but if I have to, I will be buying
> a
> > new module also.....These guys in this group are
> > GREAT!!...Jade--- "underneathheaven
> > <realvast@s...>" <realvast@s...> wrote:
> > > I just wanted to thank everyone for all the
> help!! 
> > > I'm really 
> > > disappointed about this situation but I haven't
> > > given up yet.  The 
> > > good thing is I can still expand even if the
> pm16
> > > doesnt work, I'll 
> > > just have to buy another midi source or module I
> > > guess...  I'd be 
> > > lost without this group, I swear!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt
> <wgardus@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > yup, trying to stay awake through them too....
> > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Good Morning, Vern,
> > > > > 
> > > > > You hit the nail on the head. What would
> seem to
> > > be
> > > > > a 
> > > > > straightforward use of the DTX midi function
> > > won't
> > > > > work with the 
> > > > > DTXII. My own experience with a midiKITI and
> > > Walt's
> > > > > with a PM-16, 
> > > > > however, confirm that earlier iterations of
> the
> > > > > Xpress module were 
> > > > > most cooperative. I gather that Walt seems
> to
> > > think,
> > > > > from your 
> > > > > experience and others', that the fault lies
> with
> > > the
> > > > > external 
> > > > > devices. But our troubleshooting would seem
> to
> > > > > indicate otherwise. A 
> > > > > Yamaha "apps specialist" apparently did the
> midi
> > > > > keyboard test for 
> > > > > Jade, and it came up unsuccessful, thereby
> > > prompting
> > > > > him to tell 
> > > > > Jade that using an external device with the
> > > DTXII
> > > > > was impossible. 
> > > > > Then he hit Jade with the party line,
> "DTXpress
> > > > > users shouldn't need 
> > > > > anything else." The comment was neither
> > > sympathetic,
> > > > > accurate, nor 
> > > > > satisfactory, given, at least, the
> capabilities
> > > of
> > > > > other DTXpress 
> > > > > modules et al. And why for the life of me
> would
> > > > > Yamaha personnel 
> > > > > have to run  essentially the same heuristic
> test
> > > on
> > > > > the module that 
> > > > > we've been running? Someone at that company
> > > designed
> > > > > it. You'd think 
> > > > > that they'd have a ready answer for so
> likely a
> > > > > question.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Unless there's something we've overlooked
> (like
> > > the
> > > > > proverbial 
> > > > > unplugged power cord or the like), this is a
> > > major
> > > > > flaw in the new 
> > > > > DTXII, which would seem to have designed
> out, by
> > > > > error or intention, 
> > > > > a selling point of the original DTXpress.
> Not to
> > > > > mention the time 
> > > > > and effort that people have invested in
> their
> > > > > exploration of this 
> > > > > problem, Jade and UNH have spent a good deal
> of
> > > > > money on something 
> > > > > that common sense and precedent would have
> said
> > > was
> > > > > well spent. 
> > > > > Maybe Jade and UNH will come up with
> something
> > > that
> > > > > will rescue us 
> > > > > from this puzzle. I hope so. But boy, it's
> been
> > > a
> > > > > frustrating ride. 
> > > > > Probably as we speak, Professor Walt is busy
> > > > > studying manuals and 
> > > > > constructing theories.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ed
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon
> Graner"
> > > > > <vern@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > So, the problem is that the MIDI-kiti
> cannot
> > > be
> > > > > set to send 
> > > > > specific note
> > > > > > numbers from a specific pad? Or are you
> trying
> > > to
> > > > > make the 
> > > > > DTXpressII
> > > > > > play a particular sound on a specific note
> > > number
> > > > > (i.e. Channel 
> > > > > 10, MIDI
> > > > > > note C3 makes the sound of a Ride Cymbal)?
> It
> > > > > would seem that you 
> > > > > would
> > > > > > set the MIDIkiti to channel 10, then
> assign a
> > > note
> > > > > number to a pad 
> > > > > that
> > > > > > matches with the sound map of the DTXpress
> > > unit.
> > > > > Is there 
> > > > > something I'm
> > > > > > missing in the setup? In the manual, on
> page
> > > 42
> > > > > section 1-6, 
> > > > > allows you
> > > > > > to assign a MIDI note number to a sound.
> Would
> > > > > this help in your
> > > > > > environment (by placing a sound at a note
> > > value
> > > > > the KITI can 
> > > > > transmit)?
> > > > > > Maybe I'm just dense here, but I still
> don't
> > > see
> > > > > where the failure 
> > > > > is. Is
> > > > > > it a lack of flexibility of the MIDI-Kiti
> or
> > > is it
> > > > > some perceived 
> > > > > failure
> > > > > > on the part of the DTXpress?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It seems pretty straight forward, set the
> > > MIDIkiti
> > > > > to the proper 
> > > > > midi
> > > > > > channel, then tell it what note to trigger
> and
> > > > > then place the MIDI 
> > > > > out
> > > > > > from the MIDI kiti to the MIDI in of the
> > > > > DTXpress... I guess thats 
> > > > > not
> > > > > > working for you tho. For diagnostics, do
> you
> > > have
> > > > > any other MIDI 
> > > > > gear
> > > > > > around you could use to verify function?
> Maybe
> 
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