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Re: [DTXpress] 2 voices again

2003-03-01 by Walt

Hey Vern and Anko,

Vern, what you said made me think even more about my
earlier anwser - in this case we are really tring to
trigger 3 voices, not two.  The Key
Assign Mode only has one setting that will play more
than two voices - is it poly? That matches with what
Vern observed.  Walt
--- Vernon Graner <vern@...> wrote:
> Anko:
> 
> I'm gunna take a shot at this since I have the
> manual and the module
> right here. From what I can tell, there is a finite
> amount of memory
> "space" available for each voice. If a single voice
> is two-voices "wide"
> it leaves no room for a second voice to be
> "layered". In my reading and
> testing, it seems that you can *only* add a 2nd
> layer voice *if* the
> first layer voice is not already 2 layers "wide" (as
> indicated by the
> "DOT" next to the name in the manual). From my
> testing, if you use
> BeatyRim (Acoustic Snare number 36) it is only one
> layer wide, so it
> leaves layer #2 open for assignment. So, I assigned
> "12Soprno" as the
> second layer and had both of those sounds play
> together and balance them
> with the layer balance.
> 
> In your case, when you choose the Acoustic Snare
> number 37 (Beauty) it is
> already 2 layers "wide" and it consumes the entire
> memory allocated for
> that pad (both layers) leaving no space for another
> sample to reside in (
> could be the sample rate, length or quality of that
> particular sample?).
> In this case, the second layer description of
> "unassigned" is essentially
> correct since there is no sample space left for it
> to use, so there is no
> 2nd layer assignment. I s'pose it would have been
> smarter for Yamaha to
> have made it impossible to assign a voice to the
> second layer when this
> occurs. Maybe make it display an error like "No room
> for layer 2" or some
> such... But hey, I didn't design the thing... :)
> 
> Now, again, this is based only on my testing in the
> last few minutes and
> some reading in the manual and not "official" from
> Yamaha. If someone
> wants to correct me feel free! :) hey, maybe we
> could ask the helpful
> Yamaha guy (can't remember his name, but there were
> a bunch of people
> phoning him over the MIDIkiti thing) and get an
> "official" answer. Hope
> this helps.. :)
> 
> Vern
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> ankoanko2003 said:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I posted this question before, but till now there
> were no aswers:
> >
> > Can somebody help me with the following:
> >
> > I don't understand the voices-thing fully. I
> assigned a second voice
> > to the beauty snare (for experiment a completely
> different voice).  But
> > I don't hear any difference. So I thought, let's
> go info the
> > voices layer menu. I experimented some with the
> balance of the 2
> > voices. Not a difference at all.
> >
> > I suppose I don't understand things rightly. What
> is the concept
> > anyway? For example, in the manual it says that
> the beauty snare has
> > got 2 voices. But in the voice edit menu, when
> addressing voice 2, it
> > says: no assign (that's the reason I assigned a
> different voice here,
> > but like I said, I don't hear a difference).
> >
> >
> > Anko
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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