Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Vern and Walt,

I've been away for a couple of days, so I'm just reading the news: 
thanks a lot, things are much clearer now. 

Anko


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> Hey Vern and Anko,
> 
> Vern, what you said made me think even more about my
> earlier anwser - in this case we are really tring to
> trigger 3 voices, not two.  The Key
> Assign Mode only has one setting that will play more
> than two voices - is it poly? That matches with what
> Vern observed.  Walt
> --- Vernon Graner <vern@t...> wrote:
> > Anko:
> > 
> > I'm gunna take a shot at this since I have the
> > manual and the module
> > right here. From what I can tell, there is a finite
> > amount of memory
> > "space" available for each voice. If a single voice
> > is two-voices "wide"
> > it leaves no room for a second voice to be
> > "layered". In my reading and
> > testing, it seems that you can *only* add a 2nd
> > layer voice *if* the
> > first layer voice is not already 2 layers "wide" (as
> > indicated by the
> > "DOT" next to the name in the manual). From my
> > testing, if you use
> > BeatyRim (Acoustic Snare number 36) it is only one
> > layer wide, so it
> > leaves layer #2 open for assignment. So, I assigned
> > "12Soprno" as the
> > second layer and had both of those sounds play
> > together and balance them
> > with the layer balance.
> > 
> > In your case, when you choose the Acoustic Snare
> > number 37 (Beauty) it is
> > already 2 layers "wide" and it consumes the entire
> > memory allocated for
> > that pad (both layers) leaving no space for another
> > sample to reside in (
> > could be the sample rate, length or quality of that
> > particular sample?).
> > In this case, the second layer description of
> > "unassigned" is essentially
> > correct since there is no sample space left for it
> > to use, so there is no
> > 2nd layer assignment. I s'pose it would have been
> > smarter for Yamaha to
> > have made it impossible to assign a voice to the
> > second layer when this
> > occurs. Maybe make it display an error like "No room
> > for layer 2" or some
> > such... But hey, I didn't design the thing... :)
> > 
> > Now, again, this is based only on my testing in the
> > last few minutes and
> > some reading in the manual and not "official" from
> > Yamaha. If someone
> > wants to correct me feel free! :) hey, maybe we
> > could ask the helpful
> > Yamaha guy (can't remember his name, but there were
> > a bunch of people
> > phoning him over the MIDIkiti thing) and get an
> > "official" answer. Hope
> > this helps.. :)
> > 
> > Vern
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ankoanko2003 said:
> > > Hi there,
> > >
> > > I posted this question before, but till now there
> > were no aswers:
> > >
> > > Can somebody help me with the following:
> > >
> > > I don't understand the voices-thing fully. I
> > assigned a second voice
> > > to the beauty snare (for experiment a completely
> > different voice).  But
> > > I don't hear any difference. So I thought, let's
> > go info the
> > > voices layer menu. I experimented some with the
> > balance of the 2
> > > voices. Not a difference at all.
> > >
> > > I suppose I don't understand things rightly. What
> > is the concept
> > > anyway? For example, in the manual it says that
> > the beauty snare has
> > > got 2 voices. But in the voice edit menu, when
> > addressing voice 2, it
> > > says: no assign (that's the reason I assigned a
> > different voice here,
> > > but like I said, I don't hear a difference).
> > >
> > >
> > > Anko
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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