Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Vern,

Your proposed alternative to the Yahoo board would undoubtedly be an 
improvement in many important respects. It's much more along the 
lines of the unofficial vdrums forum, which is a very informative, 
and classy setup. My sole concern is this: Yamaha is aware of this 
group. Just months after it was established in late 1999, it 
achieved a certain credibility with the company because of the 
intelligent questions and comments that emanated from it. 
Apparently, Dave Jewell has been known to check it out from time to 
time, especially, shall we say, in times of stress. I'm not claiming 
that the board has the undivided attention of Yamaha's management; 
it's definitely well on the peripery. But it does have a presence, 
and our recent telephone foray into the hierarchy has given it 
renewed notoriety. I doubt very much that the vdrums forum has 
anywhere near the contact with Roland that this one has with Yamaha. 

The Yahoo board is now 600 strong. If there's an exodus, some people 
will undoubtedly stay behind. I don't know how many, but it always 
happens. That will mean that the membership of 600 will get diluted. 
Some of us would like to see this group, or whatever group takes its 
place, become even more significant in Yamaha's e-drum plans. If 
that is ever to happen, the numbers will matter. Also, the more we 
become a moving target, the less chance we may have to solidify our 
position.  Would it be unthinkable for Yamaha to search out a new 
group if it forms, or to file the new web address away somewhere in 
case they want to check it out? No, but I'm not sure that even so 
seemingly innocuous a change as a splintered board wouldn't be an 
excuse for them to lose any interest that they might have now. As I 
said, we're on the periphery. These are delicate times for e-drums, 
especially Yamaha, which has discontinued two of its three lines. I 
would like to see this group become a testing ground of sorts for 
Yamaha's ideas. I don't know if it will happen, but I don't want to 
risk anything that might diffuse its input. As a related case in 
point, we managed to get Visu-lite, a small company, to make a 
product solely for owners of Yamaha modules. This was no meant feat, 
and it happened, in part, because we could point to a large number 
of possibly interested people in one place who would become aware of 
it in one fell swoop. 

Your proposal is enormously tempting, but I think these points 
should be taken into consideration.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Just turn OFF HTML when reading your messages. It makes it (barely)
> bearable. :)
> 
> I've been thinking about adding a mailing list or message board to 
the
> DTXpressions.com website to offer up as a replacement since I'm 
not a big
> fan of Yahoo anyway... How many of you think the embedded ads are
> intrusive enough to justify a move?
> 
> Vern
> 
> PS: to see a prototype of the message base I'm talking about, go 
here:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com/phpbb
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> 
> hairytrigger said:
> > Yes, I get those messages too. Lately, a long, horizontal one is
> > covering the text.Somebody screwed something up.
> > Scott
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "leffelejon" <gadda@k...> wrote:
> >> Anyone else get those advertisments all over the text in 
messages?
> >> Its really annoying
> >
> >
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