Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Vern
Thanks for the input. I will be the first to admit that I know 
nothing about how music is recorded and then 'processed' (for lack of 
a better term) into the final version that ships on CDs, etc.  
However, I have found your post and the others extremely helpful in 
understanding what exactly a MIDI file is and why what Im trying to 
doesnt make sense. I appreciate your help!
My ultimate goal is to be able to play the drums to popular songs 
that I like without hearing the drums in the music - but I still want 
to hear the singers and other instruments. So far, I havent had much 
luck in finding MIDI files that will help me do this --- but I havent 
really searched thoroughly, I admit!
Thanks for everyones help on this!
=David

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Tempdir:
> 
> I think my wife (who sitting beside me as I read your post) said it 
best:
> 
> "It's like he wants to export eggs and milk from a cake" :) 
(there's a
> cakewalk pun in there somewhere but I'm too lazy to dig it out!)
> 
> In effect, the MIDI data records the *gestures* (drum strokes, 
guitar
> finger motions, keyboard fingerings, mouth, breath and finger/arm
> positions on wind instruments etc) that will then be used to 
operate the
> instruments. The MP3 file contains the RESULT. There is no way to
> "export" an MP3 file to MIDI short of listening to it and then 
composing
> a new performance in a MIDI sequencer that replicates your 
interpretation
> of the gestures that created the sound. :) Does this help shed some 
light
> on the topic? :)
> 
> Also, it is possible in many cases to find repositories of 
contemporary
> music as MIDI files online. Do some searches and see for 
yourself! :)
> 
> Vern
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> 
> tempdir said:
> > Hi Ed
> > Thanks for the info. I did some search key words but couldnt 
find  any
> > posts related to the specific topic. Perhaps if we end up moving  
our
> > discussion list off of Yahoo, we can put in some more robust
> > searching capabilities!
> >
> > I guess my next course of action will be taking an MP3 and
> > converting it to MIDI and removing tracks that way. Ideally, Id 
like
> > to convert it back again to MP3 so that I can play it through an 
MP3
> > player I have hooked into the DTXpress. Unfortunately, my PC is
> > located so far away from my drums that looking at a PC-DTXpress
> > connection isnt really an option.
> >
> > I know that Cakewalk is a popular software. Do you happen to know 
if
> > it can import from and export to mp3 format ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> We were just talking about that recently on the board. Though
> >> members have various methods of minimizing the distraction of
> >> prerecorded drums when they play along with MP3s, CDs, et al., no
> >> real method of removing embedded tracks is possible, short of
> >> getting your hands on the master tapes used to create the final
> >> mixdown and eliminating all of the tracks with drums on them. The
> >> only ready to hand method that I can think of is to take some of
> > the
> >> early stereo recordings (the Beatles qualify sometimes), in which
> >> the drums were panned all the way to the left or right channel,
> > mute
> >> that channel on your playback system, and play along with what's
> >> left, maybe by panning the drums through the module to the muted
> >> channel.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tempdir" <tempdir@y...> wrote:
> >> > Hi -
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know of a preferrably inexpensive software that 
will
> >> allow me to take an mp3 or wav file, remove the drum tracks and
> >> then
> >> > save it back again as a mp3 or wav? The full blown MIDI sofware
> >> packages out there seem like overkill given I only want to
> > remove
> >> > drum tracks.
> >> > Just wondering if anyone had any good solutions?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your time,
> >> > David
> >
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