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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Removing drum tracks from music (mp3, wav, etc)

2003-03-12 by Walt

Hi David,

Cibermidi.com is a place to start, but as pointed out
- there are other places as well. 

Walt
--- tempdir <tempdir@...> wrote:
> Hi Vern
> Thanks for the input. I will be the first to admit
> that I know 
> nothing about how music is recorded and then
> 'processed' (for lack of 
> a better term) into the final version that ships on
> CDs, etc.  
> However, I have found your post and the others
> extremely helpful in 
> understanding what exactly a MIDI file is and why
> what Im trying to 
> doesnt make sense. I appreciate your help!
> My ultimate goal is to be able to play the drums to
> popular songs 
> that I like without hearing the drums in the music -
> but I still want 
> to hear the singers and other instruments. So far, I
> havent had much 
> luck in finding MIDI files that will help me do this
> --- but I havent 
> really searched thoroughly, I admit!
> Thanks for everyones help on this!
> =David
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner"
> <vern@t...> wrote:
> > Tempdir:
> > 
> > I think my wife (who sitting beside me as I read
> your post) said it 
> best:
> > 
> > "It's like he wants to export eggs and milk from a
> cake" :) 
> (there's a
> > cakewalk pun in there somewhere but I'm too lazy
> to dig it out!)
> > 
> > In effect, the MIDI data records the *gestures*
> (drum strokes, 
> guitar
> > finger motions, keyboard fingerings, mouth, breath
> and finger/arm
> > positions on wind instruments etc) that will then
> be used to 
> operate the
> > instruments. The MP3 file contains the RESULT.
> There is no way to
> > "export" an MP3 file to MIDI short of listening to
> it and then 
> composing
> > a new performance in a MIDI sequencer that
> replicates your 
> interpretation
> > of the gestures that created the sound. :) Does
> this help shed some 
> light
> > on the topic? :)
> > 
> > Also, it is possible in many cases to find
> repositories of 
> contemporary
> > music as MIDI files online. Do some searches and
> see for 
> yourself! :)
> > 
> > Vern
> > -- 
> > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is
> down, then you're
> > Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously
> incompetent so why are we
> > Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of
> course, if the network
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> don't need
> > Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we
> paying you?" VLG
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > tempdir said:
> > > Hi Ed
> > > Thanks for the info. I did some search key words
> but couldnt 
> find  any
> > > posts related to the specific topic. Perhaps if
> we end up moving  
> our
> > > discussion list off of Yahoo, we can put in some
> more robust
> > > searching capabilities!
> > >
> > > I guess my next course of action will be taking
> an MP3 and
> > > converting it to MIDI and removing tracks that
> way. Ideally, Id 
> like
> > > to convert it back again to MP3 so that I can
> play it through an 
> MP3
> > > player I have hooked into the DTXpress.
> Unfortunately, my PC is
> > > located so far away from my drums that looking
> at a PC-DTXpress
> > > connection isnt really an option.
> > >
> > > I know that Cakewalk is a popular software. Do
> you happen to know 
> if
> > > it can import from and export to mp3 format ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com,
> "liberatusvirus"
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > >> Hi David,
> > >>
> > >> We were just talking about that recently on the
> board. Though
> > >> members have various methods of minimizing the
> distraction of
> > >> prerecorded drums when they play along with
> MP3s, CDs, et al., no
> > >> real method of removing embedded tracks is
> possible, short of
> > >> getting your hands on the master tapes used to
> create the final
> > >> mixdown and eliminating all of the tracks with
> drums on them. The
> > >> only ready to hand method that I can think of
> is to take some of
> > > the
> > >> early stereo recordings (the Beatles qualify
> sometimes), in which
> > >> the drums were panned all the way to the left
> or right channel,
> > > mute
> > >> that channel on your playback system, and play
> along with what's
> > >> left, maybe by panning the drums through the
> module to the muted
> > >> channel.
> > >>
> > >> Ed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "tempdir"
> <tempdir@y...> wrote:
> > >> > Hi -
> > >> >
> > >> > Does anyone know of a preferrably inexpensive
> software that 
> will
> > >> allow me to take an mp3 or wav file, remove the
> drum tracks and
> > >> then
> > >> > save it back again as a mp3 or wav? The full
> blown MIDI sofware
> > >> packages out there seem like overkill given I
> only want to
> > > remove
> > >> > drum tracks.
> > >> > Just wondering if anyone had any good
> solutions?
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for your time,
> > >> > David
> > >
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