Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Bas,

If you're like many of us, someday that unused section of the barpad 
will start to gnaw at you, and you'll get an unconrollable urge for 
more inputs. Or maybe not. We'll see. 

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> wrote:
> Aha,
> 
> now I get the picture.
> Thanks very much for your response.
> I alaways thougth that a dualt trigger pad just had two triggers 
in 
> it, but that is not the case.
> 
> Well, it's solved now, Thanks very much for the outline.
> 
> The only problem I now have is that I can only use one pad of my 
bar 
> pad. But than again, I have one ride cymbal and two crash cymbals 
and 
> that was the main idea.
> 
> Thanks Jim and Ed for your response.
> 
> 
> Bas
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Bas,
> > 
> > Someone else had a similar question back in 1872, I think. I 
give 
> > you my answer from that era, because my brain seemed to be 
working 
> > better then than it is now. The answer to your question revolves 
> > around the difference between piezo triggers and membrane 
switches.
> > 
> > Input 9/10 will handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not one 
> piezo 
> > and one membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal, because 
> > stereo pads and inputs have a totally different electronic 
makeup 
> > than their dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as 
> > combinations of 1 piezo/1 (or 2) membrane switches (or FSRs), 
would 
> > seem, in principle, to permit a triggering opportunity for the 
two 
> > independent FSRs of a BP 80 or its equivalent if you could just 
get 
> > to them. The problem is that membrane switches on stereo pads 
are 
> > not independent triggers. Their open and closed positions 
> (membranes 
> > are basically open/close toggles) determine what sound the piezo 
is 
> > going to make--whether the sound programed to the rim, the body, 
or 
> > a choke; the switches are, if you will, slaves to the piezo. The 
> > timing of how the interaction between them takes place, not to 
> > mention the delicacy of their relative physical locations in the 
> > pad, is complicated. But the upshot is that creative cabling 
won't 
> > help you; those inputs are  by nature single piezo inputs. You 
> can't 
> > treat the "stereo" or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono 
feeds, 
> > whether piezos or FSRs. 
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> 
wrote:
> > > Thanks jim,
> > > 
> > > that's clear.
> > > 
> > > But can you tell me why that is.
> > > Isn't it that a stereo pad is nothing else than a pad with two 
> > > triggers in it.
> > > It also has two connections (stereo jack) so what's the 
> difference 
> > > (elctrical) between a stereo pad and for instance a bar pad.
> > > How does the module see wether it's a stereo pad or two 
> individual 
> > > pads.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > bas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ratzo <ratzo@t...> wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:53:31 -0000, you wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >What my intention was, is that I plug the KP65 into trigger 
1.
> > > > >When i hit the base it would be pad1, and when i hit the 
extra 
> > pad 
> > > > >connected to the input on the kp65 it should be RIM1.
> > > > >The rim1 never worked on the KP65. The odd thing is that 
when 
> I 
> > > > >connect a tp80s pas (dual trigger) to input 1, it all works 
> > > fine.The 
> > > > >normal pad is pad1, and the rimshot in the pad is 
rim1.......
> > > > >
> > > > >So, I'm confused here. Apparently there is a great 
difference 
> > > between 
> > > > >the electrical inputs on the tp80s and the KP65.
> > > > 
> > > > It's simple.  You can't have one pad trigger pad1 and 
another 
> pad
> > > > trigger rim1.  To trigger the pad and rim on any input, you 
> have 
> > to
> > > > use a stereo pad like the TP80S.  Input 9/10 can not be 
> > triggered by
> > > > the rim of a stereo pad.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ____________________________
> > > > 
> > > > Jim