Bas,
It will certainly be interesting to see how you solve the problem.
As you say, some people buy a second module--often a discontinued
one from Yamaha, Alesis, or Roland--and some connect a midi
interface with its own inputs, allowing extra pads to use the sounds
in the dtx module. I don't think that you'll be able to break into
the module to create another input, but then again, I don't have an
electronics degree. Keep us informed.
Ed
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> wrote:
> Ed,
>
> you're right. It starting to annoy me already.
> I'm a It technician with an Electrnics degree (hope I say it right
in
> english) so I'm already thinking of solution somehow.
> The simple way is to buy an extra Module, but like all the others,
we
> don't like to pay a lot of money for a simple solution.
>
> When i have a solution I will mail you and the group with it.
>
> It's also not that big of a problem, I use the kit only for
practice
> with the band. On live gigs I only use part of the kit for some
> sampling an alternative sounds for songs like U2, beautiful day.
>
> Again, thanks for your clear help and hope to hear from you in the
> future.
>
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Bas,
> >
> > If you're like many of us, someday that unused section of the
> barpad
> > will start to gnaw at you, and you'll get an unconrollable urge
for
> > more inputs. Or maybe not. We'll see.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...>
wrote:
> > > Aha,
> > >
> > > now I get the picture.
> > > Thanks very much for your response.
> > > I alaways thougth that a dualt trigger pad just had two
triggers
> > in
> > > it, but that is not the case.
> > >
> > > Well, it's solved now, Thanks very much for the outline.
> > >
> > > The only problem I now have is that I can only use one pad of
my
> > bar
> > > pad. But than again, I have one ride cymbal and two crash
cymbals
> > and
> > > that was the main idea.
> > >
> > > Thanks Jim and Ed for your response.
> > >
> > >
> > > Bas
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus"
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Bas,
> > > >
> > > > Someone else had a similar question back in 1872, I think. I
> > give
> > > > you my answer from that era, because my brain seemed to be
> > working
> > > > better then than it is now. The answer to your question
> revolves
> > > > around the difference between piezo triggers and membrane
> > switches.
> > > >
> > > > Input 9/10 will handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not
one
> > > piezo
> > > > and one membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal,
because
> > > > stereo pads and inputs have a totally different electronic
> > makeup
> > > > than their dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as
> > > > combinations of 1 piezo/1 (or 2) membrane switches (or
FSRs),
> > would
> > > > seem, in principle, to permit a triggering opportunity for
the
> > two
> > > > independent FSRs of a BP 80 or its equivalent if you could
just
> > get
> > > > to them. The problem is that membrane switches on stereo
pads
> > are
> > > > not independent triggers. Their open and closed positions
> > > (membranes
> > > > are basically open/close toggles) determine what sound the
> piezo
> > is
> > > > going to make--whether the sound programed to the rim, the
> body,
> > or
> > > > a choke; the switches are, if you will, slaves to the piezo.
> The
> > > > timing of how the interaction between them takes place, not
to
> > > > mention the delicacy of their relative physical locations in
> the
> > > > pad, is complicated. But the upshot is that creative cabling
> > won't
> > > > help you; those inputs are by nature single piezo inputs.
You
> > > can't
> > > > treat the "stereo" or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono
> > feeds,
> > > > whether piezos or FSRs.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks jim,
> > > > >
> > > > > that's clear.
> > > > >
> > > > > But can you tell me why that is.
> > > > > Isn't it that a stereo pad is nothing else than a pad with
> two
> > > > > triggers in it.
> > > > > It also has two connections (stereo jack) so what's the
> > > difference
> > > > > (elctrical) between a stereo pad and for instance a bar
pad.
> > > > > How does the module see wether it's a stereo pad or two
> > > individual
> > > > > pads.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > bas
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ratzo <ratzo@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:53:31 -0000, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >What my intention was, is that I plug the KP65 into
> trigger
> > 1.
> > > > > > >When i hit the base it would be pad1, and when i hit
the
> > extra
> > > > pad
> > > > > > >connected to the input on the kp65 it should be RIM1.
> > > > > > >The rim1 never worked on the KP65. The odd thing is
that
> > when
> > > I
> > > > > > >connect a tp80s pas (dual trigger) to input 1, it all
> works
> > > > > fine.The
> > > > > > >normal pad is pad1, and the rimshot in the pad is
> > rim1.......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >So, I'm confused here. Apparently there is a great
> > difference
> > > > > between
> > > > > > >the electrical inputs on the tp80s and the KP65.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's simple. You can't have one pad trigger pad1 and
> > another
> > > pad
> > > > > > trigger rim1. To trigger the pad and rim on any input,
you
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> > > have
> > > > to
> > > > > > use a stereo pad like the TP80S. Input 9/10 can not be
> > > > triggered by
> > > > > > the rim of a stereo pad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jim
