Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ed,

you're right. It starting to annoy me already.
I'm a It technician with an Electrnics degree (hope I say it right in 
english) so I'm already thinking of solution somehow.
The simple way is to buy an extra Module, but like all the others, we 
don't like to pay a lot of money for a simple solution.

When i have a solution I will mail you and the group with it.

It's also not that big of a problem, I use the kit only for practice 
with the band. On live gigs I only use part of the kit for some 
sampling an alternative sounds for songs like U2, beautiful day.

Again, thanks for your clear help and hope to hear from you in the 
future.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Bas,
> 
> If you're like many of us, someday that unused section of the 
barpad 
> will start to gnaw at you, and you'll get an unconrollable urge for 
> more inputs. Or maybe not. We'll see. 
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> wrote:
> > Aha,
> > 
> > now I get the picture.
> > Thanks very much for your response.
> > I alaways thougth that a dualt trigger pad just had two triggers 
> in 
> > it, but that is not the case.
> > 
> > Well, it's solved now, Thanks very much for the outline.
> > 
> > The only problem I now have is that I can only use one pad of my 
> bar 
> > pad. But than again, I have one ride cymbal and two crash cymbals 
> and 
> > that was the main idea.
> > 
> > Thanks Jim and Ed for your response.
> > 
> > 
> > Bas
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > Bas,
> > > 
> > > Someone else had a similar question back in 1872, I think. I 
> give 
> > > you my answer from that era, because my brain seemed to be 
> working 
> > > better then than it is now. The answer to your question 
revolves 
> > > around the difference between piezo triggers and membrane 
> switches.
> > > 
> > > Input 9/10 will handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not one 
> > piezo 
> > > and one membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal, because 
> > > stereo pads and inputs have a totally different electronic 
> makeup 
> > > than their dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as 
> > > combinations of 1 piezo/1 (or 2) membrane switches (or FSRs), 
> would 
> > > seem, in principle, to permit a triggering opportunity for the 
> two 
> > > independent FSRs of a BP 80 or its equivalent if you could just 
> get 
> > > to them. The problem is that membrane switches on stereo pads 
> are 
> > > not independent triggers. Their open and closed positions 
> > (membranes 
> > > are basically open/close toggles) determine what sound the 
piezo 
> is 
> > > going to make--whether the sound programed to the rim, the 
body, 
> or 
> > > a choke; the switches are, if you will, slaves to the piezo. 
The 
> > > timing of how the interaction between them takes place, not to 
> > > mention the delicacy of their relative physical locations in 
the 
> > > pad, is complicated. But the upshot is that creative cabling 
> won't 
> > > help you; those inputs are  by nature single piezo inputs. You 
> > can't 
> > > treat the "stereo" or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono 
> feeds, 
> > > whether piezos or FSRs. 
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> 
> wrote:
> > > > Thanks jim,
> > > > 
> > > > that's clear.
> > > > 
> > > > But can you tell me why that is.
> > > > Isn't it that a stereo pad is nothing else than a pad with 
two 
> > > > triggers in it.
> > > > It also has two connections (stereo jack) so what's the 
> > difference 
> > > > (elctrical) between a stereo pad and for instance a bar pad.
> > > > How does the module see wether it's a stereo pad or two 
> > individual 
> > > > pads.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > 
> > > > bas
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ratzo <ratzo@t...> wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:53:31 -0000, you wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > >What my intention was, is that I plug the KP65 into 
trigger 
> 1.
> > > > > >When i hit the base it would be pad1, and when i hit the 
> extra 
> > > pad 
> > > > > >connected to the input on the kp65 it should be RIM1.
> > > > > >The rim1 never worked on the KP65. The odd thing is that 
> when 
> > I 
> > > > > >connect a tp80s pas (dual trigger) to input 1, it all 
works 
> > > > fine.The 
> > > > > >normal pad is pad1, and the rimshot in the pad is 
> rim1.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > >So, I'm confused here. Apparently there is a great 
> difference 
> > > > between 
> > > > > >the electrical inputs on the tp80s and the KP65.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's simple.  You can't have one pad trigger pad1 and 
> another 
> > pad
> > > > > trigger rim1.  To trigger the pad and rim on any input, you 
> > have 
> > > to
> > > > > use a stereo pad like the TP80S.  Input 9/10 can not be 
> > > triggered by
> > > > > the rim of a stereo pad.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > 
> > > > > Jim