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Re: pm-16

2003-04-03 by liberatusvirus

UNH,

That's how I do it, too. We talked about a month or two ago. But 
doesn't the PM-16 allow you program multiple kits, or banks, that 
you could change when you change kits on the DTX module?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:
> I used to worry about not being able to have a different sound on 
> every user defined kit until I discussed it with someone on here.  
> What I do now is keep all my "aux" percussion connected to the PM-
> 16.  I mean if I have a crash I really like connected to the pm-16 
> because I wanna use it all the time no matter what kit I'm dealing 
> with.  Stuff that changes all the time I connect to my module.  If 
I 
> used a gong or cowbell for example I would connect those sounds to 
> the pm-16 because they don't change very often for me.  Toms and 
> crap like that do so they are always connected to my module.  Dont 
> let this minor flaw stop you from buying one.  Its worth it to 
have 
> 16 more pads, a monster set, and all the chicks after the 
gig! :)    
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> > 
> > It has 16 inputs, and you are right - it is connected via a midi 
> > cable to the Yamaha module.  There are some limitations that you 
> need 
> > to be aware of though, like the fact that within the DTXpress 
you 
> can 
> > not assign sounds in user kit definitions for the pads connected 
> via 
> > a PM-16 - the sounds for those pads will be the same in all of 
the 
> > user kits.  In other words, if you assign a cowbell sound for 
the 
> pad 
> > connected to input 1 on the PM-16, it will be a cowbell sound in 
> all 
> > of the user xpress kits.  This is not a limitation of the PM-16 
> per 
> > se, but is one of the environment.  This is one reason why some 
> folks 
> > prefer a second module instead of a pad to midi interface.
> > 
> > There are others in the group that can provide more opinions on 
> this 
> > too - come on, speak up!
> > 
> > Walt
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez" 
> <rbdaniel@b...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hello Walt
> > > 
> > > Would I be able to use the extra pads I have? How many max?
> > > For What you say the whole thing is piggy-back back to the 
> Yamaha 
> > module right? I take it through the Midi interface, right?  I 
know 
> I 
> > am a bundle of questions.. The thing is that I have seen a few 
PM-
> 16 
> > for sale in Ebay and got me thinking.. :) Hey, anything to get 
the 
> > brain cells I got left to fire up..
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Daniel 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: Walt 
> > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
> > >   Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Hi Daniel,
> > > 
> > >   A PM-16 is a triggee to midi interface device.  Think of it 
as 
> > being 
> > >   1/2 of a module - it converts pad hits to a midi note 
number, 
> > then 
> > >   sends that note number to another midi device to convert 
into 
> > >   sounds.  Inside the Yamaha modules a very similar thing 
> happens 
> > >   between the trigger and voice sections of the module.
> > > 
> > >   It is one way to expand the available inputs, adding a 
second 
> > module 
> > >   is another way.  Both have their pros and cons - I had a pm-
16 
> > for my 
> > >   kit but now use 2 modules instead.
> > > 
> > >   Walt
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez" 
> > <rbdaniel@b...> 
> > >   wrote:
> > >   > Hello Everyone
> > >   > 
> > >   > I was reading your emails on the PM-16. I am not familiar 
> with 
> > it, 
> > >   but for what I gather is a cheaper way to get more pads 
> > installed. I 
> > >   am correct to think that I could add, say.. 6 or 8 more pads 
> to 
> > the 
> > >   kit? Is the PM-16 a drum pad like the ddpad DD-55? I am 
asking 
> > >   because I have like 6 more pads sitting around waiting for 
> > another 
> > >   drum module that I would love to put to good use at a 
> sensitive 
> > $$...
> > >   > 
> > >   > Thanks
> > >   > 
> > >   > Daniel Rodriguez 
> > >   > 
> > >   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   >   From: underneathheaven 
> > >   >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
> > >   >   Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:15 PM
> > >   >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16
> > >   > 
> > >   > 
> > >   >   Hey Scott, got yourself a PM-16 eh?  Me too!  Along with 
> > >   frustration 
> > >   >   but that was cured with the help of this fierce group 
and 
> a 
> > call 
> > >   >   with Martin from Yamaha.  To fix the problem is simple, 
> but 
> > it 
> > >   >   requires a factory reset of your dtxpress.  This factory 
> > reset 
> > >   will 
> > >   >   set all the midi stuff the way it needs to be set (in 
the 
> > utility 
> > >   >   mode) and then while in utility mode you can set the 
midi 
> > notes 
> > >   to 
> > >   >   whatever you want, while using a predefined kit, like 
kit 
> > number 
> > >   one 
> > >   >   for example.  Now in the PM-16 you need to be in Midi 
> Channel 
> > 10, 
> > >   >   and Midi Prog. #1 ch. 10.  The midi note number is 
> whatever 
> > >   number 
> > >   >   you selected in the dtxpress to use as your extra 
input.  
> > Martin 
> > >   >   suggested starting at 56 or somewhere around there as 
long 
> as 
> > the 
> > >   >   midi note number already as a sound set to it, no matter 
> what 
> > the 
> > >   >   sound is.  You cannot use a midi note number that is set 
> > as "not 
> > >   >   assigned."  These type of midi numbers start appearing 
> quite 
> > >   early 
> > >   >   in the dtxpress so you don't have to go all the way to 
56 
> > like I 
> > >   >   did.  Once you have the correct midi note number 
selected 
> in 
> > the 
> > >   >   dtxpress and also set in the pm-16, you can go about 
> > selecting 
> > >   >   volume and pan and decay or whatever for whatever sound 
> you 
> > >   want.  
> > >   >   (All this is done in the utility mode of the dtxpress 
and 
> > advance 
> > >   >   mode of the PM-16.)  If we need to we can compare all 
the 
> PM-
> > 16 
> > >   >   settings.  I actually did a factory reset on PM-16 as 
> well.  
> > I 
> > >   wrote 
> > >   >   this in a hurry and not in great detail because I think 
> you 
> > know 
> > >   >   what your doing and can figure it out fairly easily with 
> > these 
> > >   >   instructions.  If you need more help let us know and 
I'll 
> > respond 
> > >   in 
> > >   >   more detail but right now I gotta go.  Also, what number 
> do 
> > you 
> > >   have 
> > >   >   lighted up in green on your LCD screen?  Mine says 
> 84...don't 
> > >   know 
> > >   >   why.  
> > >   > 
> > >   > 
> > >   > 
> > >   >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > >   >   <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > >   >   > Scott,
> > >   >   > 
> > >   >   > As far as I know, Underneathheaven's PM-16 is working 
> out 
> > ok. 
> > >   >   Maybe 
> > >   >   > you could drop him a line and copy his settings. 
> Otherwise 
> > I am 
> > >   >   sure 
> > >   >   > that a fix exists; the dreaded piano sounds were a 
very 
> > popular 
> > >   >   > topic for months.
> > >   >   > 
> > >   >   > Ed
> > >   >   > 
> > >   >   > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" 
> > <artifax@i...> 
> > >   >   wrote:
> > >   >   > > Hi guys
> > >   >   > > I have finally gotten around to hooking up my pm-16. 
I 
> > have 
> > >   the 
> > >   >   > > original DTXpress. I get the same thing I read 
about. 
> > Sounds 
> > >   >   like 
> > >   >   > a 
> > >   >   > > piano note on all channels. No sound at all on  CH 
10. 
> I 
> > had 
> > >   >   > printed 
> > >   >   > > all the posts re: this issue, and tried everything. 
no 
> > luck. 
> > >   Did 
> > >   >   > > anyone figure this out?
> > >   >   > > Scott
> > >   > 
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