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Re: pm-16

2003-04-03 by liberatusvirus

Walt, Scott, UNH,

Does the PM-16 have a MIDI in? I thought that it didn't.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> wrote:
> Since finally getting my PM-16 to work (my fault, MIDIOT, don't 
you 
> know) I have sucessfully set up several different patches, with 
> different sounds. The different sounds all need unique note 
numbers. 
> BUT I'm only adding four pads, and some sounds are the same on the 
> various patches, so... so far there are plenty of un-used note 
> numbers.
> Now, conceivably, since the DTX transmits, and the PM-16 receives 
> program change info, I should be able to, with a second midi 
cable, be 
> able to switch the PM-16 patch when I change the DTX patch.
> I'll let you know!
> Scott
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > You can program different banks on the PM-16, but
> > sooner or later (I'd bet sooner)you are going to use
> > up all the note numbers on the xpress.... 
> > --- underneathheaven <realvast@s...> wrote:
> > > I believe you can do stuff with different banks or
> > > patches or 
> > > whatever they're called, but how would the PM-16
> > > know which sound 
> > > we're changing too?  What if we could program
> > > different midi numbers 
> > > into different banks?  Each different midi number
> > > would contain a 
> > > different sound according to the bank it was in. 
> > > But I don't know 
> > > how to go about that...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > UNH,
> > > > 
> > > > That's how I do it, too. We talked about a month
> > > or two ago. But 
> > > > doesn't the PM-16 allow you program multiple kits,
> > > or banks, that 
> > > > you could change when you change kits on the DTX
> > > module?
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "underneathheaven" 
> > > <realvast@s...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I used to worry about not being able to have a
> > > different sound 
> > > on 
> > > > > every user defined kit until I discussed it with
> > > someone on 
> > > here.  
> > > > > What I do now is keep all my "aux" percussion
> > > connected to the 
> > > PM-
> > > > > 16.  I mean if I have a crash I really like
> > > connected to the pm-
> > > 16 
> > > > > because I wanna use it all the time no matter
> > > what kit I'm 
> > > dealing 
> > > > > with.  Stuff that changes all the time I connect
> > > to my module.  
> > > If 
> > > > I 
> > > > > used a gong or cowbell for example I would
> > > connect those sounds 
> > > to 
> > > > > the pm-16 because they don't change very often
> > > for me.  Toms and 
> > > > > crap like that do so they are always connected
> > > to my module.  
> > > Dont 
> > > > > let this minor flaw stop you from buying one. 
> > > Its worth it to 
> > > > have 
> > > > > 16 more pads, a monster set, and all the chicks
> > > after the 
> > > > gig! :)    
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Walt"
> > > <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Daniel,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It has 16 inputs, and you are right - it is
> > > connected via a 
> > > midi 
> > > > > > cable to the Yamaha module.  There are some
> > > limitations that 
> > > you 
> > > > > need 
> > > > > > to be aware of though, like the fact that
> > > within the DTXpress 
> > > > you 
> > > > > can 
> > > > > > not assign sounds in user kit definitions for
> > > the pads 
> > > connected 
> > > > > via 
> > > > > > a PM-16 - the sounds for those pads will be
> > > the same in all of 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > user kits.  In other words, if you assign a
> > > cowbell sound for 
> > > > the 
> > > > > pad 
> > > > > > connected to input 1 on the PM-16, it will be
> > > a cowbell sound 
> > > in 
> > > > > all 
> > > > > > of the user xpress kits.  This is not a
> > > limitation of the PM-
> > > 16 
> > > > > per 
> > > > > > se, but is one of the environment.  This is
> > > one reason why 
> > > some 
> > > > > folks 
> > > > > > prefer a second module instead of a pad to
> > > midi interface.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > There are others in the group that can provide
> > > more opinions 
> > > on 
> > > > > this 
> > > > > > too - come on, speak up!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Walt
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel
> > > Rodriguez" 
> > > > > <rbdaniel@b...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello Walt
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would I be able to use the extra pads I
> > > have? How many max?
> > > > > > > For What you say the whole thing is
> > > piggy-back back to the 
> > > > > Yamaha 
> > > > > > module right? I take it through the Midi
> > > interface, right?  I 
> > > > know 
> > > > > I 
> > > > > > am a bundle of questions.. The thing is that I
> > > have seen a few 
> > > > PM-
> > > > > 16 
> > > > > > for sale in Ebay and got me thinking.. :) Hey,
> > > anything to get 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > brain cells I got left to fire up..
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Daniel 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > >   From: Walt 
> > > > > > >   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > >   Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:39 AM
> > > > > > >   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Hi Daniel,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   A PM-16 is a triggee to midi interface
> > > device.  Think of 
> > > it 
> > > > as 
> > > > > > being 
> > > > > > >   1/2 of a module - it converts pad hits to
> > > a midi note 
> > > > number, 
> > > > > > then 
> > > > > > >   sends that note number to another midi
> > > device to convert 
> > > > into 
> > > > > > >   sounds.  Inside the Yamaha modules a very
> > > similar thing 
> > > > > happens 
> > > > > > >   between the trigger and voice sections of
> > > the module.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   It is one way to expand the available
> > > inputs, adding a 
> > > > second 
> > > > > > module 
> > > > > > >   is another way.  Both have their pros and
> > > cons - I had a 
> > > pm-
> > > > 16 
> > > > > > for my 
> > > > > > >   kit but now use 2 modules instead.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   Walt
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel
> > > Rodriguez" 
> > > > > > <rbdaniel@b...> 
> > > > > > >   wrote:
> > > > > > >   > Hello Everyone
> > > > > > >   > 
> > > > > > >   > I was reading your emails on the PM-16.
> > > I am not 
> > > familiar 
> > > > > with 
> > > > > > it, 
> > > > > > >   but for what I gather is a cheaper way to
> > > get more pads 
> > > > > > installed. I 
> > > > > > >   am correct to think that I could add,
> > > say.. 
> > === message truncated ===
> > 
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