Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

The worst thing about the cymbals, is that when lengthening the decay, 
you get what sounds like a bit of echo as the thing is repeating stuff 
to make itself longer. I don't like this at all.
BUT if you layer two IDENTICAL sounds, be they toms or cymbals, you 
get a very cool phasing effect. You have to have tuning and all 
parameters exactly the same.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Antman,
> 
> You've put your finger on something. The Yamaha sounds are all 
> supposedly sampled, but in the case of the cymbals, you'd never know 
> it. As good as many of the DTXpress's drum sounds are, the cymbals 
> seem to lag far behind (though I like the crashes much better than 
> the rides). The reason for the difference may be that Yamaha 
> manufactures drums but not cymbals. The sounds have to come from 
> somewhere, but where? Wouldn't the company have to pay a licensing 
> fee if it sampled, say, Zildjian or Paiste products? Enough said. 
> Mediocre cymbal sounds seem to be the outcome. What do you get when 
> you layer two mediocre cymbal sounds--one as half as mediocre or one 
> twice as mediocre? Okay, I'm being harsh to make a point. The 
> situation isn't all that bad. I agree with Scott about layering. I 
> leave the crashes alone and layer the rides. I haven't tried Scott's 
> idea; it sounds promising. I usually layer two related sounds to get 
> a stronger version. The resulting ride definitely sounds better when 
> other instruments are playing; in a vaccuum, it still doesn't 
> sound . . . beautiful.
> 
> 
> Ed
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "antmandrums" <ahr33@h...> wrote:
> > has anybody stumbled across any real good combinations when 
> layering 
> > cymbals.i love the drum sounds when layered,but not that impressed 
> > with cymbals/hihats.as far as hihats i normally use the'mu' setand 
> > the 'dw'.does any one know if the cymbal sounds on the ARE 
> actually 
> > taken from REAL cymbals? thanx to all who reply,antman