Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Nick,

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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks, Ed. I'll e-mail one of those Yamaha guys. However, the e-
mail 
> addresses you've given here cannot be viewed in full. Are they 
> @...?
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Nick,
> > 
> > File this info, too:
> > 
> > general applications support: 888-892-6242
> > 
> > Dave Jewell, Drum Product Mgr. (nice guy; became aware of this 
> group 
> > back in 1999): djewell@y...
> > 
> > Dave Ksyki, Head of Customer Support (esp. MIDI): dksyki@y...; 
> > 800-892-6242, ext. 4964
> > 
> > You might also encounter another technical specialist named 
Martin 
> > who has also been of great help to members of this group. See if 
> you 
> > can get this kind of personal attention from Roland. Ha!
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
<njcarroll56@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks, Ed. I am filing away that info for future reference!  
By 
> > the 
> > > way, going back to my on-going frustration re linking a 
drumkit 
> to 
> > a 
> > > self-programmed song - does Yamaha have a technical advice e-
mail 
> > > address I can write to? 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hey Nick,
> > > > 
> > > > You can now get the TMC-6 for something closer to US $200 
than 
> > > $250, 
> > > > though that probably won't make much difference to you. Its 
> > > > advantage over the discontinuted PM-16 and the Kat MIDIkiti 
is 
> > its 
> > > > inclusion of inputs that reflect the new technology, mainly 
> > > > Roland's. It does have stereo input capability, meaning that 
> you 
> > > > connect Yamaha, Pintech, or Roland gum rubber pads/cymbals 
with 
> > a 
> > > > body/rim or bow/edge through it. But the basic triggering 
> > > technology 
> > > > hasn't changed much in ten years. Though the inputs of both 
the 
> > PM-
> > > > 16 and MK are all mono, they have sixteen and nine, 
> > respectively, 
> > > > allowing you to use both single-zone and dual-zone drums and 
> > > > cymbals. UNH is right that you have to enter new midi note 
> > numbers 
> > > > on the DTX for every new sound that you want these units to 
> > make, 
> > > > but that task seemed like a daunting proposition to users of 
> the 
> > > > DTXII module only because of a bug in it that we did not 
know 
> > about 
> > > > until some of us had torn out most of our middle-aged hair. 
> (Now 
> > we 
> > > > routinely advise everyone with a new DTXII who has any MIDI 
> > > > ambitions to do a factory reset before trying anything 
fancy.) 
> > > > 
> > > > The two older MIDI interfaces also have different banks 
> (patches 
> > or 
> > > > kits) that allow the sounds of connected triggers to change 
> when 
> > > > kits are changed in the DTX module, as well as other helpful 
> > > > parameters. None of this is probably going to matter much to 
> > you; 
> > > > neither of these units is likely to show up in Australia. 
But 
> > who 
> > > > knows? I'm a long-time user of a Kat MIDIkiti, and it has 
met 
> my 
> > > > extra trigger needs quite well. I run the rim of my dual 
zone 
> > > snare, 
> > > > a splash, a heavy cymbal, a bell sound, a china, and a few 
> other 
> > > > odds and ends through it. Something like it may never end up 
> > being 
> > > a 
> > > > viable option or desire for you, but remember that if you 
add 
> > > > another module to your setup, you'll also need a mixer to 
> > > coordinate 
> > > > them.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
> > <njcarroll56@y...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Hey, thanks for that info. The TMC-6 sounds like a good 
idea. 
> > > $250 
> > > > > sounds like an okay price but I assume that's U.S. 
currency, 
> > and 
> > > > at 
> > > > > the current Australia/U.S. exchange rate that means I'd be 
> > > > spending 
> > > > > US$400. I might be more inclined to get a second DTXpress 
> > module 
> > > > > which, here Downunder, will cost me something like $1000. 
> I'll 
> > > put 
> > > > > that on the backburner, I think!
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> > > > <realvast@s...> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hey Nick!  The PM-16 is an external midi device made by 
> > > Roland.  
> > > > > > Basically, the reason I bought it was to add an 
additional 
> > 16 
> > > > > > trigger inputs to my dtxpress.  Yes, the box has a 
whopping 
> > 16 
> > > > > > inputs.  I bought it off of ebay for a $100.00 and thats 
> > > usually 
> > > > > how 
> > > > > > much they sell for.  You connect your extra pads to the 
PM-
> > 16 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > then connect the PM-16 to your dtxpress and you've got a 
> > larger 
> > > > set 
> > > > > > to play on!  The PM-16 does have some extra functions, 
like 
> > > > stuff 
> > > > > to 
> > > > > > do with pitch and velocity but nothing to fancy for 
todays 
> > > > > > standards. Like I said, I only bought it for the 
additional 
> > > > > inputs.  
> > > > > > I mentioned in another post that I am starting to see 
the 
> > value 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > buying another module.  The PM-16 does have its 
> > limitations.  
> > > > For 
> > > > > > example, any pads connected to the PM-16 will sustain 
their 
> > > > sounds 
> > > > > > on any kit you choose.  So if you connected a pad with a 
> > > cowbell 
> > > > > > sound and then switched to your user-defined jazz kit, 
that 
> > pad 
> > > > > > would remain a cowbell and you would have to change its 
> > voice 
> > > > > > through the utility menu.  As you can tell once you gain 
> > lots 
> > > of 
> > > > > > extra pads and then want to change them for each 
different 
> > kit 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > becomes a sort of hassle just because you can't save 
their 
> > > > changes 
> > > > > > for each different kit.  Roland makes a new external 
midi 
> > > device 
> > > > > > called the TMC-6.  This costs $250.00 and only comes 
with 
> > six 
> > > > extra 
> > > > > > inputs but it has more cool functions than the PM-16.  t 
> > Keep 
> > > in 
> > > > > > mind though that these boxes are in no way another 
module.  
> > > > Another 
> > > > > > member also purchased a midikiti, which is another 
external 
> > > midi 
> > > > > > device but I'm not sure if it ever worked properly.  If 
you 
> > > > wanna 
> > > > > > know any more information about it or want a pic of it 
let 
> > me 
> > > > > know!  
> > > > > > Also, if anyone else wants to add more information about 
> the 
> > PM-
> > > > 16 
> > > > > > please do!!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -UN.H
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" 
> > > > <njcarroll56@y...> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey, UN.H!  I note you've got a PM-16, which I assume 
is 
> > an 
> > > > > > ancillary 
> > > > > > > box that works with the DTXpress brain?  Can you tell 
me 
> > what 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > is, 
> > > > > > > and what it does, exactly? It is a Yamaha product?