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Re: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice

2000-07-09 by Brandon E Paluzzi

Looking at the site, I'm sure you'll be okay.

The give-aways are "switching technology" and "choke"

Both of those require an FSR, which is what the Yamaha pads use.

For the mount- it depends what size l-rod they're using. If it's a 12 mm
(DW), it should be fine.  If it's a 10.5 mm (Ludwig, Tama, Premier), it
may be a bit tight.

Brandon

On Sun, 9
Jul 2000,
Richard
C. MacDonald wrote:

> Ahh. Both of your messages help me a lot. There's another option that I
> hadn't considered but that may combine the best of both options. I could go
> with the Pintech SE102 dual zone rubber pad (10.5"!) and run it into the
> channel 2 snare input of the DTXpress. This way, I get a bigger pad, dual
> zone, lower price (US$90.00 @ Rockbottom) and still have channel 10 free
> (I'll use 9 for the new "tom" pad that I am freeing up). I give up the mesh
> head but I've lived without it this long...
> 
> I guess I would just need to double-confirm that the Pintech rubber pad
> works the same way as the Yamaha. I'm imagining that it does as it takes a
> single stereo cable vs. the dual-mono out that the mesh ones have. Will also
> have to see whether it mounts onto the Yamaha rod.
> 
> Thanks again. Any other opinions or experiences with adding-on are most
> welcome,
> Rick
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon E Paluzzi <bp33@...>
> To: 'DTXpress@egroups.com' <DTXpress@egroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:08 AM
> Subject: RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice
> 
> 
> >Actually, you'd have the same problem with the Roland.
> >
> >There are two different types of inputs on all Roland and Yamaha modules.
> >
> >There are stereo inputs, which are found on inputs 2-12 on the TD-10, and
> >1-8 on the Yamaha modules.
> >
> >These are designed to only give dual zone triggering with rubber pads.
> >This is because rubber pads use a piezo as the primary (head) trigger, but
> >an FSR (force-sensing resistor) as the second trigger.  This is the only
> >way to get double zone out of a stereo trigger.
> >
> >The second type of input is a dual input.  This is found on input 1 on the
> >TD-10, and inputs 9/10 and 11/12 on the DTX.  Don't let the numbering
> >confuse you-- The inputs are exactly the same.  They allow for two piezo
> >inputs.  This means that you can either split two separate (single zone)
> >pads, or use a dual piezo pad.  Dual piezo pads include the 12" and 8"
> >dual pads from Roland, Spacemuffins from BOom Theory, and the Pintech and
> >Hart Dynamics dual triggers.
> >
> >
> >So, since we've discovered that the problem is the same on Roland and
> >Yamaha, with the Yammies you're actually better off, since you have two
> >dual inputs.  (with the drawback being the 8 stereo, opposed to the
> >Roland's 11)
> >
> >Brandon
> >
> >On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote:
> >>recommend the Pintech dual zone ST (SilenTech) snare at around $190 If I
> >>remember correctl it's a 14" snare with a mesh head and rim triggers.
> >>The only drawback of this route is that using the 9/10 channels you don't
> >>have true rim to pad triggering control so I worry you may get alot of
> >>crosstalk, I hope others will comment on that as I know some people have
> >>already gone down this route. If you bought a Yamaha dual zone pad
> >>however, it would go into channel 2 - snare, since all your channels are
> >>stereo anyway, this gives full rim to pad trigger and voice control, but
> >>using a rubber dual zone pad isn't anything like playing a real snare
> >>with rimshots. Compromises all round I'm afraid, if only Yamaha had
> >>built their stereo sockets like Roland do there'd be no problem, but
> >>Yamaha use a different technology for their rim triggers to their pad
> >>triggers, so you cant split jacks 1-8 for two pad inputs, I know, I've
> >>tried.
> >
> >
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