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RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice

2000-07-10 by sanctum@saqnet.co.uk

The DTXpress only has on dual input, and I'm not sure you're right about the Roland using condensers for the rim triggers, I've read previously that the rim triggers in Roland pads are just piezo sensors.  alittle conflicting information going arround obviously, if you've had first hand experience of this I'm willing to change my perspective.
By the By, the DTX V2.0 seems to have far less irritating bugs than the DTXpress, is that right? Is it worth the extra dosh, I may upgrade.

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From: 	Brandon E Paluzzi
Sent: 	Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:08 PM
To: 	'DTXpress@egroups.com'
Subject: 	RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice

Actually, you'd have the same problem with the Roland.

There are two different types of inputs on all Roland and Yamaha modules.

There are stereo inputs, which are found on inputs 2-12 on the TD-10, and
1-8 on the Yamaha modules.

These are designed to only give dual zone triggering with rubber pads.
This is because rubber pads use a piezo as the primary (head) trigger, but
an FSR (force-sensing resistor) as the second trigger.  This is the only
way to get double zone out of a stereo trigger.

The second type of input is a dual input.  This is found on input 1 on the
TD-10, and inputs 9/10 and 11/12 on the DTX.  Don't let the numbering
confuse you-- The inputs are exactly the same.  They allow for two piezo
inputs.  This means that you can either split two separate (single zone)
pads, or use a dual piezo pad.  Dual piezo pads include the 12" and 8"
dual pads from Roland, Spacemuffins from BOom Theory, and the Pintech and
Hart Dynamics dual triggers.


So, since we've discovered that the problem is the same on Roland and
Yamaha, with the Yammies you're actually better off, since you have two
dual inputs.  (with the drawback being the 8 stereo, opposed to the
Roland's 11)

Brandon

On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote:
>recommend the Pintech dual zone ST (SilenTech) snare at around $190 If I
>remember correctl it's a 14" snare with a mesh head and rim triggers.
>The only drawback of this route is that using the 9/10 channels you don't
>have true rim to pad triggering control so I worry you may get alot of
>crosstalk, I hope others will comment on that as I know some people have
>already gone down this route. If you bought a Yamaha dual zone pad
>however, it would go into channel 2 - snare, since all your channels are
>stereo anyway, this gives full rim to pad trigger and voice control, but
>using a rubber dual zone pad isn't anything like playing a real snare
>with rimshots. Compromises all round I'm afraid, if only Yamaha had
>built their stereo sockets like Roland do there'd be no problem, but
>Yamaha use a different technology for their rim triggers to their pad
>triggers, so you cant split jacks 1-8 for two pad inputs, I know, I've
>tried. 


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