Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Are you talking about my message?

I said that the Roland uses dual piezos (on the mesh head pads)

The rubber pads are a piezo head sensor and an FSR rim trigger, like the
yamahas.

Bp


On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote:

> The DTXpress only has on dual input, and I'm not sure you're right
>about the Roland using condensers for the rim triggers, I've read
>previously that the rim triggers in Roland pads are just piezo sensors.
>alittle conflicting information going arround obviously, if you've had
>first hand experience of this I'm willing to change my perspective.
>By the By, the DTX V2.0 seems to have far less irritating bugs than the
>DTXpress, is that right? Is it worth the extra dosh, I may upgrade.
> 
> ----------
> From: 	Brandon E Paluzzi
> Sent: 	Sunday, July 09, 2000 6:08 PM
> To: 	'DTXpress@egroups.com'
> Subject: 	RE: [DTXpress] New Pad Advice
> 
> Actually, you'd have the same problem with the Roland.
> 
> There are two different types of inputs on all Roland and Yamaha modules.
> 
> There are stereo inputs, which are found on inputs 2-12 on the TD-10, and
> 1-8 on the Yamaha modules.
> 
> These are designed to only give dual zone triggering with rubber pads.
> This is because rubber pads use a piezo as the primary (head) trigger, but
> an FSR (force-sensing resistor) as the second trigger.  This is the only
> way to get double zone out of a stereo trigger.
> 
> The second type of input is a dual input.  This is found on input 1 on the
> TD-10, and inputs 9/10 and 11/12 on the DTX.  Don't let the numbering
> confuse you-- The inputs are exactly the same.  They allow for two piezo
> inputs.  This means that you can either split two separate (single zone)
> pads, or use a dual piezo pad.  Dual piezo pads include the 12" and 8"
> dual pads from Roland, Spacemuffins from BOom Theory, and the Pintech and
> Hart Dynamics dual triggers.
> 
> 
> So, since we've discovered that the problem is the same on Roland and
> Yamaha, with the Yammies you're actually better off, since you have two
> dual inputs.  (with the drawback being the 8 stereo, opposed to the
> Roland's 11)
> 
> Brandon
> 
> On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 sanctum@... wrote:
> >recommend the Pintech dual zone ST (SilenTech) snare at around $190 If I
> >remember correctl it's a 14" snare with a mesh head and rim triggers.
> >The only drawback of this route is that using the 9/10 channels you don't
> >have true rim to pad triggering control so I worry you may get alot of
> >crosstalk, I hope others will comment on that as I know some people have
> >already gone down this route. If you bought a Yamaha dual zone pad
> >however, it would go into channel 2 - snare, since all your channels are
> >stereo anyway, this gives full rim to pad trigger and voice control, but
> >using a rubber dual zone pad isn't anything like playing a real snare
> >with rimshots. Compromises all round I'm afraid, if only Yamaha had
> >built their stereo sockets like Roland do there'd be no problem, but
> >Yamaha use a different technology for their rim triggers to their pad
> >triggers, so you cant split jacks 1-8 for two pad inputs, I know, I've
> >tried. 
> 
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