Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

My guess is that the Yamaha's are every bit as viable as Roland's; I 
just haven't heard them. Roland usually exceeds everyone else in 
price, not necessarily quality, though, to be fair, quality ain't 
bad either, in the scheme of things. I'd like to hear equivalent 
models side by side, but how often do we get to do that? Yamaha 
makes good stuff; that much we know.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> 
wrote:
> Ed, how about Yamaha keyboard amps?  Should be good?  I am 
> interested in Roland but I'm also interested in eating.
> 
> -UN.H
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > My guess is that if everyone agrees to play nice together, the 
> amps 
> > could work fine in a practice situation. For your room, they 
would 
> > be far more than adequate; they could easily get you kicked out 
of 
> > college, an apartment, or even your parents' house. If I needed 
an 
> > amp for home, I'd probably think seriously about the Roland PM-3 
> or 
> > even a Roland mono keyboard amp, though I hate Roland for its 
> > prices. The JBL options (Eon) are good, too, and I'm sure a lot 
of 
> > other keyboard amps are as well, though I'm not familiar with 
all 
> of 
> > the varieties. 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> <realvast@s...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks ed, thats exactly what I was looking for.  Basically I 
> need 
> > > an amp to play along with my guitarist friend while he records 
> > into 
> > > my computer.  After that we'll just switch and I'll lay down 
the 
> > > drum track.  It sucks that I can't play while he's recording 
> like 
> > > he'd like me to.  I guess these amps you talked about would 
work 
> > > well in my room then eh?  I was also curious about the live 
> > > situation.  What about the band just practicing in a garage?  
> The 
> > > amps you mentioned should work ok there right?  Thanks!!
> > > 
> > > -UN.H
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi UNH,
> > > > 
> > > > How goes it? This old timer no longer has to worry about 
> playing 
> > > > through anything but a board and headphones, but I've had an 
> > > > interest in sound for a long time. You certainly don't need 
an 
> > amp 
> > > > marketed solely for e-drums to get decent sound quality. A 
> good 
> > > > keyboard amp would do, but what you need for e-drums live--
> > > assuming 
> > > > high quality parts in the amp and speaker sections, is as 
much 
> > > power 
> > > > and as much size in the woofer, or subwoofer, as your wallet 
> and 
> > > > physical space can afford. Keyboard amps usually have the 
> > > advantage 
> > > > of a wide frequency response, translating into a punchy, 
deep 
> > kick 
> > > > and shimmering cymbals. A ten-inch woofer can be sufficient 
> for 
> > > some 
> > > > purposes, but a fifteen is better. If the speaker and power 
> are 
> > > > clean but not too big, you can still get a pleasing sound 
out 
> of 
> > > > them. The kick might still have punch, though not much 
depth. 
> A 
> > > lot 
> > > > of home and/or portable stereos feature this sort of sound, 
> and 
> > > most 
> > > > people don't know what they're missing until they hear it 
for 
> > the 
> > > > first time. A drummer, however, might not be able to get 
away 
> > with 
> > > > thin sound in a band situation, though, depending on the 
kind 
> of 
> > > > music and the kind of room. 
> > > > 
> > > > I've played the Roland Session set in a live situation with 
> the 
> > > > dedicated PM-3, and although I liked what I heard, it simply 
> > > doesn't 
> > > > have enough authority to survive a live setting with a lot 
of 
> > > space 
> > > > and people, especially in competition with the drummer's 
> natural 
> > > > enemy, the guitarist. The satellites are rated at 50W and 
the 
> > bass 
> > > > section, with 10-inch woofers, at 100W. I think that the KC-
> 500 
> > > > keyboard amp, rated at 150W, would have basically the same 
> > > problem. 
> > > > At home, you'd sound like you were in a stadium; in a 
stadium, 
> > > you'd 
> > > > sound like you were at home playing with two boxes of Q tips 
> > stuck 
> > > > in your ears. Live, you could certainly use both of these 
amps 
> > as 
> > > > personal monitors. It's hard to know exactly how to 
supplement 
> > > them 
> > > > without knowing the venue. That's why it's always safest to 
> have 
> > a 
> > > > group PA that can handle any situation. It's easier to 
adjust 
> > > 1000W 
> > > > downward if necessary than to get 150W to make a big noise 
> that 
> > > > anyone would want to hear--that is, if they could hear it at 
> > all. 
> > > > Remember also that 200W doesn't play twice as loud as 100W; 
it 
> > > takes 
> > > > 1000 to do that. The safest thing to say is that you need as 
> > many 
> > > > watts and inches as you an afford and hope for the best.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" 
> > > <realvast@s...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Is it vital to have an amp made for e-drums to get the 
best 
> > > sound 
> > > > > out of your e-drums?  I mean you could also use a keyboard 
> > > right?  
> > > > > Also, how much power would (watt wise) would the amp need 
to 
> > > have 
> > > > to 
> > > > > sound good in a live situation?  Thanks!
> > > > > 
> > > > > -UN.H