Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

OK, that sux,   I saw this guy the other night playing in a group of 
like 5 guys, he had this whole rig with him,  Well he had an acoustic 
set with all this rack mounted stuff behind him,  looked like a big 
sequencer and some really cool tech gear, so ofcourse I went over to 
pick his brain, it winds up that he was using a minidisk player, the 
disks he was using were recorded by actual musicians (friends of his 
I supose) but it didn't sound half bad, I mean they played some good 
stuff, like the Jackson 5 cover,  and that sequence was playing  in 
the back round, or I think they played dave matthews Ants 
marching, and the violin was rocking in the beginging,  however he 
had someone record it for him to a minidisk,  you guys know what I'm 
talking about,  so my question to you is....maybe If I go buy a 
minidisk player.....there may be minidisks out there that I could 
buy, just for this purpose?  far fetched?

Herb









--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, Ken Anthony <info@r...> wrote:
> ( this reply rambles, but it's late and I'm just blabling )
> 
> Herb,
> 
> Unfortunately, the dtxpress can't do this natively. Sure,
> it can play a sequence, but you need a reference click, which
> is audible.
> 
> This kind of thing was real common in the 80's early 90's
> when cover bands would have their drummer play to a click
> track which was the tempo of a sequencer which played all
> the "extra parts". I did quite a bit of this. The biggest problem
> was the awkwardness the drummer had to endure of playing
> to a robotic click, which, in many cases, causes the naturalness
> of the music to become sterile and possibly created abrupt tempo
> jerks when the drummer notices he's a little ahead/behind the click.
> 
> We settled on a "kahler human clock" to actually set the midi 
> tempo based on the drummer's feel. It listen's to the drummer
> and makes minute adjustments to the midi clock and maintains
> some degree of human feel. I don't believe they still sell stuff 
like
> this as it's just not to popular anymore ( at least since Milli 
Vanilli
> )
> to pipe in any sequenced music/sounds/vocals. The extreme is the 
modern
> 'one man band' you see in every tourist trap that plays or sings to
> midi tracks. Ironically, if these guys just thought about it for
> a minute, they'd realize all they really need is a cd player ( but 
I'm
> guessing they think that 'all that gear' justifies the effort and 
makes
> it seem like more than one guy playing to a tape :) )
> 
> If you're looking to hit a pad and trigger a piece of audio,
> you might want a sampler, but this is only good for short audio
> pieces that are very tempo oriented ( like a horn pad, or single 
word
> backup harmony ).
> 
> The cheapest way out is to get a second seqencer/brain that can 
transmit
> midi clocks AND produce it's own audible click 
> ( like one of those casio/yamaha keyboards they sell at 
> walmart/circuit city/sears for under $200. )
> so you can route the click to your phones/monitors and 
> hide it from the rest of the world.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Herb wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > ok,  I used the DTXPRESS for a live Jam practice with some guys 
last
> > night.   It worked great after some fine tuning.    I have a 
question,
> > maybe you guys know is there anything on the market that will 
allow us to
> > play cover tunes and fill in the missing parts?  Like if we want 
to play
> > Dave Matthews  tune "what would you say"  is there some piece of 
equipment
> > that will allow me to hit Play, hear a click so I can start the 
tune, and
> > then fill in the Harmonica part, and violin part.  Or If I want 
to play
> > that rusted root tune,  I can go get something or download 
something that
> > will cover the flute part?  Does anyone know what I mean?
> > 
> > Herb
> > 
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