OK, that sux, I saw this guy the other night playing in a group of
like 5 guys, he had this whole rig with him, Well he had an acoustic
set with all this rack mounted stuff behind him, looked like a big
sequencer and some really cool tech gear, so ofcourse I went over to
pick his brain, it winds up that he was using a minidisk player, the
disks he was using were recorded by actual musicians (friends of his
I supose) but it didn't sound half bad, I mean they played some good
stuff, like the Jackson 5 cover, and that sequence was playing in
the back round, or I think they played dave matthews Ants
marching, and the violin was rocking in the beginging, however he
had someone record it for him to a minidisk, you guys know what I'm
talking about, so my question to you is....maybe If I go buy a
minidisk player.....there may be minidisks out there that I could
buy, just for this purpose? far fetched?
Herb
--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, Ken Anthony <info@r...> wrote:
> ( this reply rambles, but it's late and I'm just blabling )
>
> Herb,
>
> Unfortunately, the dtxpress can't do this natively. Sure,
> it can play a sequence, but you need a reference click, which
> is audible.
>
> This kind of thing was real common in the 80's early 90's
> when cover bands would have their drummer play to a click
> track which was the tempo of a sequencer which played all
> the "extra parts". I did quite a bit of this. The biggest problem
> was the awkwardness the drummer had to endure of playing
> to a robotic click, which, in many cases, causes the naturalness
> of the music to become sterile and possibly created abrupt tempo
> jerks when the drummer notices he's a little ahead/behind the click.
>
> We settled on a "kahler human clock" to actually set the midi
> tempo based on the drummer's feel. It listen's to the drummer
> and makes minute adjustments to the midi clock and maintains
> some degree of human feel. I don't believe they still sell stuff
like
> this as it's just not to popular anymore ( at least since Milli
Vanilli
> )
> to pipe in any sequenced music/sounds/vocals. The extreme is the
modern
> 'one man band' you see in every tourist trap that plays or sings to
> midi tracks. Ironically, if these guys just thought about it for
> a minute, they'd realize all they really need is a cd player ( but
I'm
> guessing they think that 'all that gear' justifies the effort and
makes
> it seem like more than one guy playing to a tape :) )
>
> If you're looking to hit a pad and trigger a piece of audio,
> you might want a sampler, but this is only good for short audio
> pieces that are very tempo oriented ( like a horn pad, or single
word
> backup harmony ).
>
> The cheapest way out is to get a second seqencer/brain that can
transmit
> midi clocks AND produce it's own audible click
> ( like one of those casio/yamaha keyboards they sell at
> walmart/circuit city/sears for under $200. )
> so you can route the click to your phones/monitors and
> hide it from the rest of the world.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Herb wrote:
> >
> >
> > ok, I used the DTXPRESS for a live Jam practice with some guys
last
> > night. It worked great after some fine tuning. I have a
question,
> > maybe you guys know is there anything on the market that will
allow us to
> > play cover tunes and fill in the missing parts? Like if we want
to play
> > Dave Matthews tune "what would you say" is there some piece of
equipment
> > that will allow me to hit Play, hear a click so I can start the
tune, and
> > then fill in the Harmonica part, and violin part. Or If I want
to play
> > that rusted root tune, I can go get something or download
something that
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> > will cover the flute part? Does anyone know what I mean?
> >
> > Herb
> >
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