Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fezzasus" 
> <could_people_stop_being_funny_please@h...> wrote:
>  
> > to be honest i dont like the sounds from te DTX much, i am 
> > looking for better snare and cymbal sounds - does the DM5 
offer 
> > these? - i have decided the best way to get around the mono 
only 
> > thing is split the sterio cables into two mono ones so i can 
> > assign them as completly different voices on the DM5 - i am 
sure 
> > adaptors can be purchased to do that..
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Cymbals seem to be the failing, one extent or another, of every 
> module. I'm not wild about everything I've heard on the TD10. 
Before 
> I got the Visu-lites, I liked a few of the crashes and a couple of 
> the rides on the Xpress module (I wish there were a good 
ping), but I 
> couldn't get any oomph out of them. Plus, when 
unaccompanied by music 
> to mask them a little, they sounded synthetic and artificial. As 
for 
> the hats, I like a bright, snappy sound; the closest to it for me 
on 
> the Xpress is a tweaked GM Jazz hat, which I like, though, 
again, I 
> wish it had more body. That said, the Visu-lites made a great 
> difference to the cymbals that I was already disposed to like. A 
> couple of us brought the matter up on the board earlier this 
year. It 
> may be something about the way energy is transmitted across 
the 
> acylic or the design of the pickups, but the Yamaha samples 
seem to 
> come across better on them. It's definitely a personal thing, but 
I'm 
> curious to hear if other people have the same impression. 
Jade, for 
> one, has said as much.
> 
> To my mind, the snares on the DTX's are a little harsh and 
limited in 
> dynamic range. I'm waiting for the electronics to be able to 
> reproduce lightest strokes with subtlety and to distinguish he 
mid to 
> hard ones with a little more grace. 
> 
> I'm assuming that you're talking about the DTXv2.0, but for the 
> purposes of the question, it doesn't matter. You can't get 
around the 
> matter of feeding a mono module, like the DM5 stereo signals, 
by 
> splitting the feeds or getting an adaptor. For all intents and 
> purposes, the stereo pads made by Yamaha, Roland, and 
Pintech are 
> glorified mono pads. Their single piezo pickup are simply able 
to 
> accomodate a second (or third) voice due to an FSR (or two) 
on the 
> rim, which functions basically as a toggle. Only modules built 
to 
> accept this particular design can handle it. Alesis modules 
can't. A 
> stereo pad played through one will get only the body sound, not 
the 
> rim or edge. Dual-zones pads, like the Pintech ConcertCasts 
or the 
> Visu-lite dual-zone rides, however, are constructed to be split 
into 
> two mono inputs, or a single input like the 9/10 on the Xpress, 
via a 
> TRS Y cable, and the equivalents on the DTXv2.0 and the 
Rolands. 
>  
> > so.. should i go for the DM5 or look at other ideas?
> 
> I've heard some people say that they like the DM5 cymbals 
better than 
> Yamahas. Let's see if anyone wants to go out on a limb here. 
Can you 
> listen to the module anywhere? You should listen to anything 
that you 
> can afford, if you can. You could also go the sampler route, 
which 
> will cost you some money.
> 
> Ed

hmm ok - i will wait untill i recive my visu lites before i buy 
anythng - not that i have a choice though - i have managed to 
spend all my money on the visu lites, im just glad they are good 
value.

unfortunatly i havn't got anywhere where i can test out the 
modules.

thanks for the help