--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "gordonbakos420" <g.bakos@i...> wrote: > I just started reading the messages from this group and had to join. > I've had my dtxpressII for about 9 mos and am starting to regain my > skills of long ago. I used to play in a H.S. band in the 70's and > haven't touched a drum set since. Now I can play in my own private > (virtual) world, even in my apartment, ( I insisted on a ground floor > so I wouldn't have neighborly issues) and I love it. > I hear a lot of crabbin about the cymbal sounds and I don't > understand... they sound fine in my headfones. Is it hard to make > them sound good thru a sound system? Hi Gordon, It's great, isn't it? E-drums are a godsend for drummers who live in a world with other people. I guess that makes all of us. I don't want to come down too hard on the cymbals, but I do think that they are a weak link in a generally impressive product. I agree that the DTXpress module has a few good ones, but a great many of the others sound too processed, not like cymbals found in nature, if you know what I mean. The problem is partly that in the digital world, each stroke is an entirely new event; the natural sustain with its overtones and undertones is missing. The decay feature in the Voice menu helps a little, but the cycling is almost audible and the cutoff too abrupt. The crossfading option is a good idea in this system, but the DTXpress doesn't offer enough layering of voices, either simultaneously or by velocity. Resolution is another factor, and that won't improve completely until the bit and sampling rate get higher. It all starts, however, with the original samples. Yamaha makes acoustic drums, not cymbals. I don't know where they got their cymbal sounds. Some of the more expensive modules do a better job of approximating what cymbals do under various conditions. The ddrum module, for example, which works on an entirely different principle-- creating all its sounds by extensive multisampling rather digitally modeling sound waves or altering samples with effects--is breathtaking in its realism. It's also a whole lot easier to use, because the voices already have the natural elements and environments embedded in them; the user doesn't have a set of parameters to manipulate to simulate them. That said, some of the DTXPress crashes with the right amount of decay sound great, especially the ones numbered within C1-10. The Chinas are pretty good, too, and I like one of the rides a lot (Ridelite A, or something). In a band context or a practice context with music, they sound better than when totally naked. Hey, but most drummers look better fully clothed than totally exposed, too. So how can we complain? The incredible thing about the DTXpress is that it is as good as it is at such a low price. Sorry, I'm running off at the mouth. Welcome to the fold. Just so that you don't misunderstand me, my feeling about the DTXpress cymbal voices is a little like a Zen experience. When I first started using them, they blew me away. After a while I started noticing their deficiencies and became slightly disenchanted. Now I appreciate them for what they are, which ain't that bad. Ed
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Re: newbie
2003-09-27 by liberatusvirus
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