Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, distortion@r... wrote:
> D. and Gord,
> 
> >
> > This may well be a case in which someone thinks that the only way 
to
> > add a second module to a kit for more inputs is through MIDI.
> > Actually, this method is redundant at best and, well, . . . wrong 
at
> > worst. If you were to use a dedicated input to MIDI device, like
> > Roland's TMC-6, you would indeed use a MIDI connection from the 
slave
> > device to access MIDI note numbers on the DTXPress II module. 
> 
> And THAT would use MIDI...  you contradicted yourself...  This 
would 
> also run the possiblility of having the DTX polyphony run out, 
depending 
> on the voice structure of the kit being played.

Gord.

I was making the distinction between a purely MIDI-connected device-- 
like the TMC-6, the Kat MIDIKITI, the Roland PM-16 et al.--which has 
no sounds of its own, and a second sound module, of the DTXpress  
sort, which does not need to access its sounds through a MIDI 
connection. The DTXpress does have limited MIDI note numbers for the 
purpose of a MIDI slave device used in conjunction with the DTXpress 
itself, but many of us (including me, for years) have used such a 
device to good effect for as many as six or more inputs. I fail to 
see the self-contradiction (unless I were saying that the only way to 
add inputs is via MIDI, and I'm not).

> > But if
> > you simply want the benefit of two drum modules, each with its own
> > inputs, sounds, and audio outputs, what you need is an inexpensive
> > mixer--on the order of the Rolls MX28 or one of the (dare I say 
it)
> > Behringers, or others--which can accept audio output 
> 
> 
> But we don't know what D. wants, as we can't tell from the 
question. 
> Offering all these solutions without truly knowing what D. wants 
could 
> just serve to confuse the issue.
> The problem with tech questions is that we sometimes want to dive 
into a 
> solution without first totally identifying the TRUE needs, always 
needs 
> more WHYs to clarify and diagnose, then solve.
> 
> Reminds me of the story of a guy that bought a computer system from 
an 
> online retailer... he got it all shipped, and then complained that 
it 
> was all in pieces.. but he never did order a pre-built computer... 
just 
> the parts... he never explained his needs, and the retailer never 
> asked... a buddy just told him what components to get... he got 
what he 
> ordered, but not what he wanted.

True, we don't know for sure, and all of us are capable of being 
wrong, misinformed, and unclear about many things. But we've seen 
this situation come up a lot over the years on this board. Hazarding 
an informed guess at this point won't ruin anyone's day; nothing is 
etched in stone. And if this is indeed what D was trying to do all 
along, we may have skipped everyone an extra step or two.

Ed