--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" <jjc@s...> wrote: > > My only issue with the DTXpress I is that we've only got the II > and III formats so far... unless someone knows where we can find > the "I" format. > What about the Xtreme formats? Should get them,if possible,as well!! I'm sure all the Xtreme users out there would like to see the same sort of thing for it. After the Xpress one is done of course and we see how much it helps. George > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Monsieur_Benoit" > <monsieur_benoit@y...> wrote: > > I'm a synth player, but I often visit a friend who has a DTXpress > II. I know another one who has a DTXpress I (but harder to get the > hands on). > > So of you need to have some tests done on one of these modules, > I'll be also very happy to help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Benoit > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: jjcorley0000 > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:30 PM > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data > > > > > > > > I certainly am very familiar with a "gathering requirements" > > phase building up a set of goals that can never be reached. I > > definately plan to start small and see what happens from there. > > > > Its actually for that reason (and issues I have with GPL) > that I > > don't plan on working within Jsynthlib. I certainly will offer > the > > application for free, but not via the GPL. > > > > I do plan on supporting all the DTXpress models. The formats > > between the II and III looking pretty close and it shouldn't be > too > > much more effort... testing will be my only issue as I will only > > have the III. I'll need someone with a II, who won't mind if > their > > settings get FUBAR'd, to do some beta testing for me when I get > to > > that stage. > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> > wrote: > > > These are all excellent ideas. > > > > > > From my point of view, with three modules, just being able to > > > upload/download the kit settings and trigger settings, one > module > > at > > > a time, into the PC, and editing them, would be a 1000 percent > > > improvement. > > > > > > I would just suggest that unless you have alot a spare time on > > your > > > hands, which is probably not the case for most folks, is to > keep > > if > > > basic and simple. If the project program becomes overly > > complicated, > > > trying to accommodate everybody's wishlist, then it may not get > > > finished. (i.e. Drumb and Drumber Manual) > > > > > > At where I work, we would talk about generating a detail > > > program/shreadsheet for panelboard calculations. The problem > was > > that > > > a gigantic wishlist was generated and the project just never > got > > > complete. I went and generated a simple spreadsheet that does > the > > job > > > and everybody is now using it. If we had waited for the perfect > > > program, we would still be waiting and doing the calculations > > > manually. I have updated the spreadsheet a dozen times over the > > > years, as time became available and it is still being used. > > > > > > Since the Sysex, is slightly different for the Dtxpress > I/II/III, > > it > > > maybe better to keep it simplier, so that it can be adapted for > > use > > > with all these modules, as oppose, having just one complex > program > > > for just one module. But if you end up with a dtxpress III, I > > fully > > > understand, spending you effect exclusively concentrating on it. > > > > > > But ultimately, you will have to decide on the difficulty > factor > > and > > > your available time. > > > > > > If there are any specific technical information or question > that > > you > > > need as your are working through the programming task, I can > pass > > > them onto Yamaha, as they seem to be responding to my requests > as > > a > > > moderator here, very quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > OldGuyDrummer (OGD) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Monsieur_Benoit" > > > <monsieur_benoit@y...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, as far as I know about editor (for synths), you > > should > > > do with an editor/librarian : > > > > > > > > As a librarian : > > > > > > > > - open a sysex or request a dump (bulk dumps or partial > dumps : > > > only a song, a kit....) > > > > - view all the data on screen, in a big array for exemple > > > > - move, switch or delete elements > > > > - send the whole data, or just a part (a kit...) > > > > - save the data, as sysex, and/or as proprietary if you're > > adding > > > stuff (comments, other informations) > > > > > > > > As an editor (most of the time in librarian, you double- click > on > > an > > > element to edit it and an editor window opens) / > > > > - change parameters (voices, effects...) > > > > sometimes modules can accept realtime sysex, so when you're > > > tweaking the patch on your computer, you're sending realtime > > sysex, > > > and so editing the sound directly in the buffer of the module. > > > > but for old synths, or simpler modules, you can't edit in > > realtime, > > > so you have to request a dump / edit / send the data, and then > you > > > can hear the difference. I guess that the DTXpress systems are > > > working with this second option. > > > > > > > > For examples, you can see some screenshots of a synth > > > editor/librarian here : > http://www.soundtower.com/synth/triton.htm > > > > You can also download and try the demo version of Midiquest, > a > > > multi synth editor librarian : > > > http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuest-About.html > > > > > > > > Finally, once again, as you're planning to developp under > Java, > > I > > > would recommend to have a look at Jsynthlib, an Open Source > > Universal > > > Synthesizer Patch Editor / Librarian written in the Java > > Language. : > > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/jsynthlib/ > > > > > > > > Maybe you can add support of the DTXpress into Jsynthlib, or > at > > > least grab some code parts if you want to start from scratch... > > > > > > > > (another idea : I would maybe nice to have a tool for > > translating a > > > midifile into DTXpress language and then send it with sysex as > a > > > song... maybe a little bit out of the project) > > > > > > > > Hope this can help > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Benoit > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: jjcorley0000 > > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:43 AM > > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that the Sysex formats have been posted in > the > > > files > > > > section. I read them over and they don't look terribly > > > complicated. > > > > Using the javax.sound.midi package it should be fairly > > > > straightforward to build an application to manage this > > > information. > > > > Note that this will still have to wait until the DTXIIISP > > arrives > > > and > > > > allocate a weekend or two to the task. > > > > > > > > What would people like to see in this application? > > > > > > > > A few ideas I had: > > > > - XML (text based) format export/import so that people > can > > > hand > > > > modify files or write other utilities to muck with them. > > > > - A "my kits/songs/etc" so that you could create a > really > > > large > > > > (limited only by disk space) db of these items and then > pick > > and > > > > choose them for a certain "load". + List of Favorite loads. > > > > - The ability to multi-select items (ex: kits) and > modify > > > params > > > > for all selected items in one action (ex: volume). Should > be > > > able to > > > > do this absolute (ex: set to 70) or relative (ex: +10). > > > > - Copy & Swap things from one kit to another. > > > > > > > > Hmmm, me thinks I'm talking myself into more than a > > weekend > > > or > > > > two of work... > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" <jjc@s...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Can you post the information to the website or the > files > > > area > > > > > here? > > > > > > > > > > While I reluctantly admit that I have the > > skills/experience > > > to > > > > > handle such a task (Java/C++, GUI, embedded software, > > mucking > > > with > > > > > bits in files): > > > > > > > > > > a) I'm waiting on the IIISP, so I don't yet have a > > system > > > for > > > > > testing. > > > > > > > > > > b) I'm not sure how much time I can really dedicate > to > > > such a > > > > > task. > > > > > > > > > > That said, I'd like to see the data formats so I can > get > > an > > > > idea > > > > > of the level of effort. If I were to put something > > together, > > > I'd > > > > > likely do it in Java so our non-MS friends wouldn't be > SOL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" > > <rdamon@m...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Ok, I now have the Sysex Bulk Dump Data from Yamaha for > > the > > > > > > DTxpressII and DtxpressIII. Let's see if we can > coordinate > > > who > > > > > wants > > > > > > to tackle what, in generating a program for seting > > > up/changing > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > > > > Alternate DTXpress site: > > http://www.dtxpressions.com > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data
2004-01-27 by G