I believe the Sysex info. for the Dtxtreme 1 is in the back of the manual and is available for downloading as a PDF from the Japanese Yamaha site. http://www2.yamaha.co.jp/manual/pdf/emi/english/ssdrums/DTXTREMEE2.pdf It is about 1.3mb or I would upload it into the files area, which is getting pretty full. OGD --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "G" <kickflippin@h...> wrote: > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" <jjc@s...> wrote: > > > > My only issue with the DTXpress I is that we've only got the II > > and III formats so far... unless someone knows where we can find > > the "I" format. > > > What about the Xtreme formats? Should get them,if possible,as > well!! I'm sure all the Xtreme users out there would like to see the > same sort of thing for it. After the Xpress one is done of course and > we see how much it helps. > > George > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Monsieur_Benoit" > > <monsieur_benoit@y...> wrote: > > > I'm a synth player, but I often visit a friend who has a DTXpress > > II. I know another one who has a DTXpress I (but harder to get the > > hands on). > > > So of you need to have some tests done on one of these modules, > > I'll be also very happy to help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Benoit > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: jjcorley0000 > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:30 PM > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data > > > > > > > > > > > > I certainly am very familiar with a "gathering > requirements" > > > phase building up a set of goals that can never be reached. I > > > definately plan to start small and see what happens from there. > > > > > > Its actually for that reason (and issues I have with GPL) > > that I > > > don't plan on working within Jsynthlib. I certainly will offer > > the > > > application for free, but not via the GPL. > > > > > > I do plan on supporting all the DTXpress models. The > formats > > > between the II and III looking pretty close and it shouldn't be > > too > > > much more effort... testing will be my only issue as I will > only > > > have the III. I'll need someone with a II, who won't mind if > > their > > > settings get FUBAR'd, to do some beta testing for me when I get > > to > > > that stage. > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> > > wrote: > > > > These are all excellent ideas. > > > > > > > > From my point of view, with three modules, just being able to > > > > upload/download the kit settings and trigger settings, one > > module > > > at > > > > a time, into the PC, and editing them, would be a 1000 > percent > > > > improvement. > > > > > > > > I would just suggest that unless you have alot a spare time > on > > > your > > > > hands, which is probably not the case for most folks, is to > > keep > > > if > > > > basic and simple. If the project program becomes overly > > > complicated, > > > > trying to accommodate everybody's wishlist, then it may not > get > > > > finished. (i.e. Drumb and Drumber Manual) > > > > > > > > At where I work, we would talk about generating a detail > > > > program/shreadsheet for panelboard calculations. The problem > > was > > > that > > > > a gigantic wishlist was generated and the project just never > > got > > > > complete. I went and generated a simple spreadsheet that does > > the > > > job > > > > and everybody is now using it. If we had waited for the > perfect > > > > program, we would still be waiting and doing the calculations > > > > manually. I have updated the spreadsheet a dozen times over > the > > > > years, as time became available and it is still being used. > > > > > > > > Since the Sysex, is slightly different for the Dtxpress > > I/II/III, > > > it > > > > maybe better to keep it simplier, so that it can be adapted > for > > > use > > > > with all these modules, as oppose, having just one complex > > program > > > > for just one module. But if you end up with a dtxpress III, I > > > fully > > > > understand, spending you effect exclusively concentrating on > it. > > > > > > > > But ultimately, you will have to decide on the difficulty > > factor > > > and > > > > your available time. > > > > > > > > If there are any specific technical information or question > > that > > > you > > > > need as your are working through the programming task, I can > > pass > > > > them onto Yamaha, as they seem to be responding to my > requests > > as > > > a > > > > moderator here, very quickly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OldGuyDrummer (OGD) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Monsieur_Benoit" > > > > <monsieur_benoit@y...> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, as far as I know about editor (for synths), you > > > should > > > > do with an editor/librarian : > > > > > > > > > > As a librarian : > > > > > > > > > > - open a sysex or request a dump (bulk dumps or partial > > dumps : > > > > only a song, a kit....) > > > > > - view all the data on screen, in a big array for exemple > > > > > - move, switch or delete elements > > > > > - send the whole data, or just a part (a kit...) > > > > > - save the data, as sysex, and/or as proprietary if you're > > > adding > > > > stuff (comments, other informations) > > > > > > > > > > As an editor (most of the time in librarian, you double- > click > > on > > > an > > > > element to edit it and an editor window opens) / > > > > > - change parameters (voices, effects...) > > > > > sometimes modules can accept realtime sysex, so when you're > > > > tweaking the patch on your computer, you're sending realtime > > > sysex, > > > > and so editing the sound directly in the buffer of the module. > > > > > but for old synths, or simpler modules, you can't edit in > > > realtime, > > > > so you have to request a dump / edit / send the data, and > then > > you > > > > can hear the difference. I guess that the DTXpress systems > are > > > > working with this second option. > > > > > > > > > > For examples, you can see some screenshots of a synth > > > > editor/librarian here : > > http://www.soundtower.com/synth/triton.htm > > > > > You can also download and try the demo version of > Midiquest, > > a > > > > multi synth editor librarian : > > > > http://www.squest.com/Windows/MidiQuest-About.html > > > > > > > > > > Finally, once again, as you're planning to developp under > > Java, > > > I > > > > would recommend to have a look at Jsynthlib, an Open Source > > > Universal > > > > Synthesizer Patch Editor / Librarian written in the Java > > > Language. : > > > > http://www.overwhelmed.org/jsynthlib/ > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you can add support of the DTXpress into Jsynthlib, > or > > at > > > > least grab some code parts if you want to start from > scratch... > > > > > > > > > > (another idea : I would maybe nice to have a tool for > > > translating a > > > > midifile into DTXpress language and then send it with sysex > as > > a > > > > song... maybe a little bit out of the project) > > > > > > > > > > Hope this can help > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Benoit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: jjcorley0000 > > > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 8:43 AM > > > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed that the Sysex formats have been posted in > > the > > > > files > > > > > section. I read them over and they don't look terribly > > > > complicated. > > > > > Using the javax.sound.midi package it should be fairly > > > > > straightforward to build an application to manage this > > > > information. > > > > > Note that this will still have to wait until the DTXIIISP > > > arrives > > > > and > > > > > allocate a weekend or two to the task. > > > > > > > > > > What would people like to see in this application? > > > > > > > > > > A few ideas I had: > > > > > - XML (text based) format export/import so that > people > > can > > > > hand > > > > > modify files or write other utilities to muck with them. > > > > > - A "my kits/songs/etc" so that you could create a > > really > > > > large > > > > > (limited only by disk space) db of these items and then > > pick > > > and > > > > > choose them for a certain "load". + List of Favorite > loads. > > > > > - The ability to multi-select items (ex: kits) and > > modify > > > > params > > > > > for all selected items in one action (ex: volume). > Should > > be > > > > able to > > > > > do this absolute (ex: set to 70) or relative (ex: +10). > > > > > - Copy & Swap things from one kit to another. > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm, me thinks I'm talking myself into more than a > > > weekend > > > > or > > > > > two of work... > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "jjcorley0000" > <jjc@s...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you post the information to the website or the > > files > > > > area > > > > > > here? > > > > > > > > > > > > While I reluctantly admit that I have the > > > skills/experience > > > > to > > > > > > handle such a task (Java/C++, GUI, embedded software, > > > mucking > > > > with > > > > > > bits in files): > > > > > > > > > > > > a) I'm waiting on the IIISP, so I don't yet have a > > > system > > > > for > > > > > > testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > b) I'm not sure how much time I can really > dedicate > > to > > > > such a > > > > > > task. > > > > > > > > > > > > That said, I'd like to see the data formats so I > can > > get > > > an > > > > > idea > > > > > > of the level of effort. If I were to put something > > > together, > > > > I'd > > > > > > likely do it in Java so our non-MS friends wouldn't be > > SOL. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" > > > <rdamon@m...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Ok, I now have the Sysex Bulk Dump Data from Yamaha > for > > > the > > > > > > > DTxpressII and DtxpressIII. Let's see if we can > > coordinate > > > > who > > > > > > wants > > > > > > > to tackle what, in generating a program for seting > > > > up/changing > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > List owner: DTXpress-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress > > > > > > Alternate DTXpress site: > > > http://www.dtxpressions.com > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Re: Sysex Bulk Dump Data
2004-01-28 by oldguydrummer