Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
<kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
> > <kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" 
<a_zapelectric@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can 
put 
> > the 
> > > > > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase 
> recording 
> > > DAW 
> > > > > for better control.
> > > > 
> > > > Steve,
> > > > 
> > > > Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had 
> two 
> > > > auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that 
the 
> > DTXP 
> > > > has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount 
> > brain) 
> > > has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on 
> > another 
> > > then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much 
the 
> > ONLY 
> > > way to really record "live" e-drums.
> > > 
> > > Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an 
> > xpress 
> > > III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time 
to 
> > dump 
> > > down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back 
and 
> > do 
> > > toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and 
> cymbals... 
> > > does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or 
anything... 
> > > seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to 
> try 
> > it 
> > > out!
> > > 
> > > I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap 
> > a$$'s, 
> > > honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live 
> > situation... 
> > > granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want 
indivual 
> > > control over everything but still... you need everything 
> > seperate... 
> > > how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would 
just 
> be 
> > > pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all 
my 
> > > cool snare rever tricks and special effects!
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)
> > > Gilligan
> > 
> > He, he, Ranting ok here!
> > 
> > Btw, I even tried recording one drum pad at a time to my DAW 
> tracks. 
> > Too hard to keep time hiting 'one' pad!
> > I've not tried muting all but one pad to play/record. Maybe that 
> > would be a better feel? I myself would need to rcord a scratch 
> track 
> > with full drums as it would throw me off hearing just the snare 
as 
> I 
> > record!
> > 
> > Yes, the DTX 2.0 has the sliders. What I'd 'really' love is to 
find 
> > a great deal on an original DTXtreme drum module...In/Out heaven!
> > 
> > Steve
> 
> Hey Steve, Even easier just record the midi notes in cubase (or 
> whatever) then mute the sounds you don't want to record and play 
the 
> midi notes back to the "brain" while recording the audio from 
> the "brain"... that way you only play the track once and like it 
was 
> meant to be played ;)  You got to make the equipment work for you 
> man... show that DAW who's the boss!
> 
> If you still don't get it feel free to let me know either here or 
> private email and I will try to explain more thourough... just 
VERY 
> tired right now!
> 
> Good night all,
> Gilligan

Hi Kevin/Gilligan,

Yeah, it seems the Daw's been showing ME who's boss for the last 
couple years 'lol'.
I've just begun to start learning/experimenting midi. I've done it a 
few times. As a guitar player for 25 + years and a drummer for only 
a few years, I could really use quantizing for my drumming.

Actually, I keep going back & fourth on the idea of a better brain 
VS buying a software drum sampler. Playing/recording my drum 
performances in Cubase DAW via midi. Then using a soft-drum 
interface - something like Battery to play the recorded midi while 
using samples from say Drum Kit From Hell sampler instead of 
Yamaha's internal sounds.
Someone told me this is how he does it with his Yamaha e-drum set. I 
don't know how to do all that, but it sounds like a good idea. Then 
the learning curve makes me look at better drum brains! Oh well;)

Steve