Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I was looking at buying a used DTX 2.0 drum module to replace my 
DTXpress 1 module hoping that it has more features, inputs and 
outputs. Maybe even better samples.

But is the DTX 2.0 better or newer? And what's a good price for a 
used DTX 2.0 module?

Thanks, Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> I was looking at buying a used DTX 2.0 drum module to replace my 
> DTXpress 1 module hoping that it has more features, inputs and 
> outputs. Maybe even better samples.
> 
> But is the DTX 2.0 better or newer? And what's a good price for a 
> used DTX 2.0 module?

Hi Steve,

The DTX v2.0 is a better module than the DTXpressI, with which it was 
roughly contemporary.  It is far more user-friendly; it has more 
inputs and features (I don't remember the output situation); its 
parameters are far more versatile; and it has more voices. The 
samples were cut from the same cloth, but you could do more with them 
(like layer four at a time, alternate them to create a short 
percussive or melodic phrase, etc.). You might go to Yamaha's site 
and look at the PDF of the manual for the complete scoop. I've seen 
it sold on ebay for about $225 to $250. But you could do a search of 
recent sales to make sure.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > I was looking at buying a used DTX 2.0 drum module to replace my 
> > DTXpress 1 module hoping that it has more features, inputs and 
> > outputs. Maybe even better samples.
> > 
> > But is the DTX 2.0 better or newer? And what's a good price for 
a 
> > used DTX 2.0 module?
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> The DTX v2.0 is a better module than the DTXpressI, with which it 
was 
> roughly contemporary.  It is far more user-friendly; it has more 
> inputs and features (I don't remember the output situation); its 
> parameters are far more versatile; and it has more voices. The 
> samples were cut from the same cloth, but you could do more with 
them 
> (like layer four at a time, alternate them to create a short 
> percussive or melodic phrase, etc.). You might go to Yamaha's site 
> and look at the PDF of the manual for the complete scoop. I've 
seen 
> it sold on ebay for about $225 to $250. But you could do a search 
of 
> recent sales to make sure.
> 
> Ed



Thanks Ed,

Good idea, I'll look for the pdf files. I've upgraded some of my 
DTXpress 1 pads to duals, added a bell etc, so I have extra pads I 
can use. I figure my pad set is good enough for recording.
I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put the 
snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase recording DAW 
for better control.

I thought, a few years ago that the DTX 2.0 was being sold new 
around the same time as the DTXpress 1 with a slightly better set, 
but with my CRS condition...Well, I CRS! 

Thanks, Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put the 
> snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase recording DAW 
> for better control.

Steve,

Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had two 
auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that the DTXP 
has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put the 
> > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase recording 
DAW 
> > for better control.
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had two 
> auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that the DTXP 
> has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> 
> Ed


Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount brain) 
has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on another 
then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much the ONLY 
way to really record "live" e-drums.

Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an xpress 
III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time to dump 
down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back and do 
toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and cymbals... 
does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or anything... 
seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to try it 
out!

I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap a$$'s, 
honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live situation... 
granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want indivual 
control over everything but still... you need everything seperate... 
how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would just be 
pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all my 
cool snare rever tricks and special effects!

Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)
Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" <kevin_richard@b...> 
wrote:
> Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount 
brain) 
> has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on another 
> then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much the 
ONLY 
> way to really record "live" e-drums.

I don't think that anyone would argue that point. If cost is no 
object, discrete is the way to go. But on a budget, the DTXpress is a 
decent compromise. You could also use two budget modules and pan 
various components all the way to one side or the other, doing as you 
please with each feed. Assuming that you didn't have to buy anything 
else, the cost would still be less than a TD-20, ddrum4 (or 3), etc.

> Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an xpress 
> III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time to 
dump 
> down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back and 
do 
> toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and cymbals... 
> does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or anything... 
> seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to try 
it 
> out!

It should work. In fact, doesn't the esteemed tweakheadz (see the 
Links section) describe doing just that with his DTXpress? 

> 
> I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap 
a$$'s, 
> honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live 
situation... 
> granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want indivual 
> control over everything but still... you need everything 
seperate... 
> how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would just be 
> pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all my 
> cool snare rever tricks and special effects!
> 
> Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)

All constructive rants appreciated. But look: The DTXpress is to a 
high end recording instrument as Notepad is to a full-fledged 
wordprocessor. It's great as a practice tool, a convenient kit for a 
nondemanding live applications, or studio or live demo-recording 
tool. I don't think anyone mistakes it for a drumkit suitable in 
every situation. For serious recording purposes, an e-kit has to 
have, at least, a failure/adequacy rate for individual events far 
better than the failure/adequacy rate of the drummer playing it. Who 
wants to have keep re-doing a take because the crash dropped out or 
the kick was doubling, etc. I don't think that any e-kit yet creates 
the kind of confidence that most people who record seriously demand. 
But they are much less taxing to record than acoustics, thereby 
giving them the edge under certain circumstances. I've heard a 
DTXpress in well-made recordings, and it's easy to notice its 
limitations. But it's also hard not be impressed with how good it can 
sound despite them. Let's put it this way: Assuming that any drummer 
in your band was pretty savvy, if he bought a DTXpress, the reason 
would probably be that it was in his budget, not because he thought 
he was getting the bargain of the century on a $5000 piece of 
equipment.

Ed

> All constructive rants appreciated. But look: The DTXpress is to a 
> high end recording instrument as Notepad is to a full-fledged 
> wordprocessor. It's great as a practice tool, a convenient kit for 
a 
> nondemanding live applications, or studio or live demo-recording 
> tool. I don't think anyone mistakes it for a drumkit suitable in 
> every situation. For serious recording purposes, an e-kit has to 
> have, at least, a failure/adequacy rate for individual events far 
> better than the failure/adequacy rate of the drummer playing it. 
Who 
> wants to have keep re-doing a take because the crash dropped out or 
> the kick was doubling, etc. I don't think that any e-kit yet 
creates 
> the kind of confidence that most people who record seriously 
demand. 
> But they are much less taxing to record than acoustics, thereby 
> giving them the edge under certain circumstances. I've heard a 
> DTXpress in well-made recordings, and it's easy to notice its 
> limitations. But it's also hard not be impressed with how good it 
can 
> sound despite them. Let's put it this way: Assuming that any 
drummer 
> in your band was pretty savvy, if he bought a DTXpress, the reason 
> would probably be that it was in his budget, not because he thought 
> he was getting the bargain of the century on a $5000 piece of 
> equipment.
> 
> Ed

I agree... my drummer uses Yamaha customs and ATM 35's (not the "pro" 
crap) for mics.  Would have been nice not to have him bashing so 
loudly when I went up to play guitar or sing on a few songs... you 
get tired of wearing earplugs all night, night after night!

If/when I decide to record these drums for any half serious project I 
will actually most likely borrow a "good" rack mount module or 
something to get great drum sounds not just adequate sounds from the 
brain.

On the bands first cd (a disaster!) we actually ended up having the 
poor drummer go back and overdub his toms with the dtx (possible v1 
it was so long ago) because the kit was recorded so poorly... I 
didn't get pulled into the project till everything was recorded and 
they were fighting mixdown (boy what a fight on there hands).  The 
band was really into Dream Theatre stuff so poor Danny would sit 
there for like an hour on one fill going "how did I play that... man 
it's fast!" haha!  Well the album still sounded like crap in the end 
due to pure mic'ing technique just about everywhere.  But it was one 
hell of a learning experience for those boys!

oh oh, I've drifted off again... sorry,
Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put the 
> > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase recording 
DAW 
> > for better control.
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had two 
> auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that the 
DTXP 
> has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> 
> Ed

That would be cool. More trigger inputs , audio outputs to separate 
snare, etc...to separate recording tracks as well as better samples. 
Actually, I'm even more interested in better sample sounds.

Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
<kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
> wrote:
> > > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put 
the 
> > > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase recording 
> DAW 
> > > for better control.
> > 
> > Steve,
> > 
> > Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had two 
> > auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that the 
DTXP 
> > has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> > 
> > Ed
> 
> 
> Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount 
brain) 
> has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on 
another 
> then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much the 
ONLY 
> way to really record "live" e-drums.
> 
> Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an 
xpress 
> III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time to 
dump 
> down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back and 
do 
> toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and cymbals... 
> does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or anything... 
> seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to try 
it 
> out!
> 
> I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap 
a$$'s, 
> honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live 
situation... 
> granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want indivual 
> control over everything but still... you need everything 
seperate... 
> how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would just be 
> pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all my 
> cool snare rever tricks and special effects!
> 
> Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)
> Gilligan

He, he, Ranting ok here!

Btw, I even tried recording one drum pad at a time to my DAW tracks. 
Too hard to keep time hiting 'one' pad!
I've not tried muting all but one pad to play/record. Maybe that 
would be a better feel? I myself would need to rcord a scratch track 
with full drums as it would throw me off hearing just the snare as I 
record!

Yes, the DTX 2.0 has the sliders. What I'd 'really' love is to find 
a great deal on an original DTXtreme drum module...In/Out heaven!

Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
> <kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can put 
> the 
> > > > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase 
recording 
> > DAW 
> > > > for better control.
> > > 
> > > Steve,
> > > 
> > > Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had 
two 
> > > auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that the 
> DTXP 
> > > has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount 
> brain) 
> > has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on 
> another 
> > then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much the 
> ONLY 
> > way to really record "live" e-drums.
> > 
> > Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an 
> xpress 
> > III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time to 
> dump 
> > down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back and 
> do 
> > toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and 
cymbals... 
> > does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or anything... 
> > seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to 
try 
> it 
> > out!
> > 
> > I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap 
> a$$'s, 
> > honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live 
> situation... 
> > granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want indivual 
> > control over everything but still... you need everything 
> seperate... 
> > how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would just 
be 
> > pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all my 
> > cool snare rever tricks and special effects!
> > 
> > Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)
> > Gilligan
> 
> He, he, Ranting ok here!
> 
> Btw, I even tried recording one drum pad at a time to my DAW 
tracks. 
> Too hard to keep time hiting 'one' pad!
> I've not tried muting all but one pad to play/record. Maybe that 
> would be a better feel? I myself would need to rcord a scratch 
track 
> with full drums as it would throw me off hearing just the snare as 
I 
> record!
> 
> Yes, the DTX 2.0 has the sliders. What I'd 'really' love is to find 
> a great deal on an original DTXtreme drum module...In/Out heaven!
> 
> Steve

Hey Steve, Even easier just record the midi notes in cubase (or 
whatever) then mute the sounds you don't want to record and play the 
midi notes back to the "brain" while recording the audio from 
the "brain"... that way you only play the track once and like it was 
meant to be played ;)  You got to make the equipment work for you 
man... show that DAW who's the boss!

If you still don't get it feel free to let me know either here or 
private email and I will try to explain more thourough... just VERY 
tired right now!

Good night all,
Gilligan

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
<kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
> > <kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> 
> wrote:
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" 
<a_zapelectric@h...> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I was hoping that if the DTX 2.0 has more outputs, I can 
put 
> > the 
> > > > > snare for example onto it's own track into my Cubase 
> recording 
> > > DAW 
> > > > > for better control.
> > > > 
> > > > Steve,
> > > > 
> > > > Now that I think about it, I seem to recall that the DTX had 
> two 
> > > > auxiliary outputs, in addition to the L/R stereo ones that 
the 
> > DTXP 
> > > > has. You might be able to do exactly what you want.
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah the DTX (if that's the one with the sliders vs rackmount 
> > brain) 
> > > has aux outs so you can assign and pan kick on one snare on 
> > another 
> > > then toms on one and cymbals to the last one... pretty much 
the 
> > ONLY 
> > > way to really record "live" e-drums.
> > > 
> > > Alternately I'm thinking about tracking midi (I'm getting an 
> > xpress 
> > > III soon) and then just muting the other parts when it's time 
to 
> > dump 
> > > down to audio... so just kick and snare one pass then go back 
and 
> > do 
> > > toms and hats then maybe even another pass for ride and 
> cymbals... 
> > > does anyone see a problem with doing that? latency or 
anything... 
> > > seems like it should work but I haven't recieved my set yet to 
> try 
> > it 
> > > out!
> > > 
> > > I wish the phones out could double as an aux out... damn cheap 
> > a$$'s, 
> > > honestly how are you really to use this thing in a live 
> > situation... 
> > > granted I'm actually a sound engineer by trade so I want 
indivual 
> > > control over everything but still... you need everything 
> > seperate... 
> > > how can you do reverb tricks with toms and such... I would 
just 
> be 
> > > pissed if my drummer was getting an xpress and taking away all 
my 
> > > cool snare rever tricks and special effects!
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps, sorry for the rant ;)
> > > Gilligan
> > 
> > He, he, Ranting ok here!
> > 
> > Btw, I even tried recording one drum pad at a time to my DAW 
> tracks. 
> > Too hard to keep time hiting 'one' pad!
> > I've not tried muting all but one pad to play/record. Maybe that 
> > would be a better feel? I myself would need to rcord a scratch 
> track 
> > with full drums as it would throw me off hearing just the snare 
as 
> I 
> > record!
> > 
> > Yes, the DTX 2.0 has the sliders. What I'd 'really' love is to 
find 
> > a great deal on an original DTXtreme drum module...In/Out heaven!
> > 
> > Steve
> 
> Hey Steve, Even easier just record the midi notes in cubase (or 
> whatever) then mute the sounds you don't want to record and play 
the 
> midi notes back to the "brain" while recording the audio from 
> the "brain"... that way you only play the track once and like it 
was 
> meant to be played ;)  You got to make the equipment work for you 
> man... show that DAW who's the boss!
> 
> If you still don't get it feel free to let me know either here or 
> private email and I will try to explain more thourough... just 
VERY 
> tired right now!
> 
> Good night all,
> Gilligan

Hi Kevin/Gilligan,

Yeah, it seems the Daw's been showing ME who's boss for the last 
couple years 'lol'.
I've just begun to start learning/experimenting midi. I've done it a 
few times. As a guitar player for 25 + years and a drummer for only 
a few years, I could really use quantizing for my drumming.

Actually, I keep going back & fourth on the idea of a better brain 
VS buying a software drum sampler. Playing/recording my drum 
performances in Cubase DAW via midi. Then using a soft-drum 
interface - something like Battery to play the recorded midi while 
using samples from say Drum Kit From Hell sampler instead of 
Yamaha's internal sounds.
Someone told me this is how he does it with his Yamaha e-drum set. I 
don't know how to do all that, but it sounds like a good idea. Then 
the learning curve makes me look at better drum brains! Oh well;)

Steve

Yeah, its not too hard but there are endless possibilities!  I myself 
will probably always record MIDI and if it ends up being something 
that NEEDS to count then I will just borrow or go down to the local 
music store and use their Triton or something similar to get some 
real good sounds.  I guess most ppl don't have that luxury but I'm 
sure most ppl at least know someone with a little better gear then 
them that could help out ;)

I haven't fooled with the software sampler playback and record at the 
same time from a midi file but I imagine it would be pretty straight 
forward once you got into it.  As for as triggering ext sounds via 
midi well that's pretty easy just route midi out to the midi in and 
audio out to the audio in ;)  hit record as it plays your midi back 
it triggers the samples and your audio is being recorded... done!  
Just turn down the sounds you don't want to record on those tracks 
and then after your done route the outputs to the new tracks and turn 
down the previous ones and turn up the new ones.

I can find more out about triggering/recording soft synths/samplers 
for you if you would like... my buddy is a DJ/Songwriter (not a 
hack.. this guy is BAD!) and he knows Cubase inside and out as well 
as midi and soft synths.  Let me know if you want more info!

Gilligan

<snip>
 
> Hi Kevin/Gilligan,
> 
> Yeah, it seems the Daw's been showing ME who's boss for the last 
> couple years 'lol'.
> I've just begun to start learning/experimenting midi. I've done it 
a 
> few times. As a guitar player for 25 + years and a drummer for only 
> a few years, I could really use quantizing for my drumming.
> 
> Actually, I keep going back & fourth on the idea of a better brain 
> VS buying a software drum sampler. Playing/recording my drum 
> performances in Cubase DAW via midi. Then using a soft-drum 
> interface - something like Battery to play the recorded midi while 
> using samples from say Drum Kit From Hell sampler instead of 
> Yamaha's internal sounds.
> Someone told me this is how he does it with his Yamaha e-drum set. 
I 

> don't know how to do all that, but it sounds like a good idea. Then 
> the learning curve makes me look at better drum brains! Oh well;)
> 
> Steve

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Kevin Richard" 
<kevin_richard@b...> wrote:
> Yeah, its not too hard but there are endless possibilities!  I 
myself 
> will probably always record MIDI and if it ends up being something 
> that NEEDS to count then I will just borrow or go down to the 
local 
> music store and use their Triton or something similar to get some 
> real good sounds.  I guess most ppl don't have that luxury but I'm 
> sure most ppl at least know someone with a little better gear then 
> them that could help out ;)
> 
> I haven't fooled with the software sampler playback and record at 
the 
> same time from a midi file but I imagine it would be pretty 
straight 
> forward once you got into it.  As for as triggering ext sounds via 
> midi well that's pretty easy just route midi out to the midi in 
and 
> audio out to the audio in ;)  hit record as it plays your midi 
back 
> it triggers the samples and your audio is being recorded... done!  
> Just turn down the sounds you don't want to record on those tracks 
> and then after your done route the outputs to the new tracks and 
turn 
> down the previous ones and turn up the new ones.
> 
> I can find more out about triggering/recording soft 
synths/samplers 
> for you if you would like... my buddy is a DJ/Songwriter (not a 
> hack.. this guy is BAD!) and he knows Cubase inside and out as 
well 
> as midi and soft synths.  Let me know if you want more info!
> 
> Gilligan
> 
> <snip>
>  
> > Hi Kevin/Gilligan,
> > 
> > Yeah, it seems the Daw's been showing ME who's boss for the last 
> > couple years 'lol'.
> > I've just begun to start learning/experimenting midi. I've done 
it 
> a 
> > few times. As a guitar player for 25 + years and a drummer for 
only 
> > a few years, I could really use quantizing for my drumming.
> > 
> > Actually, I keep going back & fourth on the idea of a better 
brain 
> > VS buying a software drum sampler. Playing/recording my drum 
> > performances in Cubase DAW via midi. Then using a soft-drum 
> > interface - something like Battery to play the recorded midi 
while 
> > using samples from say Drum Kit From Hell sampler instead of 
> > Yamaha's internal sounds.
> > Someone told me this is how he does it with his Yamaha e-drum 
set. 
> I 
> > don't know how to do all that, but it sounds like a good idea. 
Then 
> > the learning curve makes me look at better drum brains! Oh well;)
> > 
> > Steve

Hey there,

I did try recording midi in Cubase and then used my Alesis QS7.1 
keyboard/synth to play the drums sounds in there instead of the 
DTXpress...You know? I forgot about that option of straight ahead 
midi. It took me a long time to learn to do anything with mide, but 
I've got the basics.
Hmmm...But if I could buy a stand alone sound module with awsome 
drum sounds, hopefully with 'high quality' samples, maybe 
that 'would' be the way to go...? It wouldn't tax my DAW's power 
either!
And also I heard that even the 'new' DTXtreme drum module has only 
16 bit samples. I record everything in Cubase at 32 bit floating 
point. The software samples I hear are among the highest quality.
But really, it's all about the sound, and the DTXpress 1's sound  
just dosen't give me wood.

Steve

Steve, I just did some quick searches mainly on tweakheadz forums and 
this seems like something you should check out... if you are 
interested in just drums.. it's the EMU PK-7:

http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?
product=1088&category=628&maincategory=628&nav=soft

That is a link with some "demo" mp3 samples.

If you are looking for a little bit of everything check out some of 
the Roland XV stuff they have a Drum expansion board that has to be 
pretty "badas".

The EMU is discontinued but I saw an ebay completed item for 411 and 
the roland xv2020 is 600 plus 200 for the expansion board or really 
step it up to the xv5050 at 800!

I don't know what others would say but check out tweakheadz forum and 
search around there for a while.. these guys do this all day so they 
should know something that maybe us drummers don't ;)

Let us know what you decide!
Gilligan

> Hey there,
> 
> I did try recording midi in Cubase and then used my Alesis QS7.1 
> keyboard/synth to play the drums sounds in there instead of the 
> DTXpress...You know? I forgot about that option of straight ahead 
> midi. It took me a long time to learn to do anything with mide, but 
> I've got the basics.
> Hmmm...But if I could buy a stand alone sound module with awsome 
> drum sounds, hopefully with 'high quality' samples, maybe 
> that 'would' be the way to go...? It wouldn't tax my DAW's power 
> either!
> And also I heard that even the 'new' DTXtreme drum module has only 
> 16 bit samples. I record everything in Cubase at 32 bit floating 
> point. The software samples I hear are among the highest quality.
> But really, it's all about the sound, and the DTXpress 1's sound  
> just dosen't give me wood.
> 
> Steve

Along the lines of where this topic drifted to :p

I'm looking for some ideas on good sample sets either for use with a 
Virtual Sampler or Synth (like Reason or Helion.)

OR even just some really good(read better then stock DTXpress) sound 
fonts to load into either a SF supporting card or a Soft Sound Fonts 
player.

Any ideas?  I have found a bunch of samples but it is a BUNCH so 
going through them all would be painfull... any one played around with
http://www.hammersound.net/ ?

Thanks in advance,
Gilligan