Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hello,
Previous to quite a long spell off the drums, I played accoustic 
kits for a long time and am now semi retired from the pub & club 
scene. I have been persuaded to dust the sticks off and start 
playing and recording again - mainly safe covers etc. but just for 
fun ! 
For various reasons I am thinking of buying a DTXPress 111, I have 
some reservations regarding how "good" the Cymbal sounds are -
bearing in mind the PA/Mixer system I will be using is pretty good.
Also, how easy is it to adapt to playing the wacky HI Hat pedal!
Please be gentle.
RAV4t3.

Hello RAV

As a III user I thought that I would respond to your cymbal questions.
IMHO the cymbal sounds are quite good (and a real advance over
previous e-cymbals sounds) but do not directly replicate the
experience of playing acoustic cymbals. Here's my biggest complaint:
when playing a ride rhythm on an acoustic you start the cymbal ringing
in a sustained manner and then add to that as you are playing, so
between strikes there is a sustained sound and the next strike adds to
that sound. With any e-cymbal each hit is a new event which
re-triggers the sound. On a "chokeable" e-cymbal striking the cymbal
will sometimes choke a sustained sound instead of starting a new one.
This can be avoided with some attention, but it does happen.
Your hihat experience will differ a bit between the III and the III-SP
which uses a hihat stand and a cymbal shaped pad. My SP setup does a
good job of replicating the acoustic hihat experience in the sense
that one is using a real hihat pedal and that the sensor does a good
job of triggering open, closed and in-between sounds. So far I find I
must stand hard on the pedal to get the fully closed sound, but I have
not troubled to fuss with it thus far. My experience of the
stand-alone pedal as found in the III is limited to an old DTX unit so
I don't believe I can be fair to the current one.

If you can swing getting the SP I believe you will find the extra
money well spent. I have played these drums mostly through a Peavey PA
and a Peavey Keyboard amp and have been pleased with the sound: solid
and realistic bass, drum and cymbal sounds. At one point I found the
cymbals to be weak sounding, but then cleverly increased the treble
setting on the amp and achieved nirvana.

Creighton


On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 07:27:26 -0000, rav4t3 <a.holmes@...> wrote:
> Hello,
> Previous to quite a long spell off the drums, I played accoustic
> kits for a long time and am now semi retired from the pub & club
> scene. I have been persuaded to dust the sticks off and start
> playing and recording again - mainly safe covers etc. but just for
> fun !
> For various reasons I am thinking of buying a DTXPress 111, I have
> some reservations regarding how "good" the Cymbal sounds are -
> bearing in mind the PA/Mixer system I will be using is pretty good.
> Also, how easy is it to adapt to playing the wacky HI Hat pedal!
> Please be gentle.
> RAV4t3.
> 
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-- 
Creighton Higgins

Creighton,
 
If you have to press that hard, you might need to adjust hihat clutch down
lower. Inside there is a FSR sensor on the bottom inside of the RHH130 with
a rubber rocker pad that swivels down onto the FSR similar to the older HH65
pedal. The clutch is just a solid chunk of metal that clamps to the rod that
moves up and down inside the hihat stand and it just presses down on the
rubber rocker pad. If the clutch is attached too high on the rod, it will
not completely press down on the rubber rocker pad and thus not press
against the last section of the FSR. There are some photo in the gallery
area showing this. The way I adjusted mine was to lower the clutch and let
it slide down until it just made contact with the rubber rocker and then
brought it up about a 1/4" and tightened the wing nut. That way the rubber
rocker is at it's fully closed position, before the hihat pedal bottoms out.
 
OGD 
 
" Creighton wrote:. So far I find I
must stand hard on the pedal to get the fully closed sound, but I have
not troubled to fuss with it thus far.  " 


  

 
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