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Side note: [DTXpress] Re: Crash cymbal problems

Side note: [DTXpress] Re: Crash cymbal problems

2004-09-22 by contract731@comcast.net

--- ritchiechappell wrote:
> Sometimes when i hit the crash cymbal pad the
> sound is cut short ...

Sorry, I was being dense ... there is another option. If by "song"
you mean that you're playing along with the module's built-in songs,
then this may be a polyphony issue. The brain only has a limited
number of voices that can be used simultaneously. When a song is
playing, depending on its complexity, it's using a lot of the
available voices which doesn't leave many for your pads. The brain
may just be grabbing the voice used by your cymbal because it needs
it for something else. There is absolutely nothing you can do about
this, I'm afraid.

Stewart



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Side note: [DTXpress] Re: Crash cymbal problems

2004-09-22 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, contract731@c... wrote:
> Just a side comment. I had the same issue.
> 
> I learned very early on (many years ago :(  )
> directly from a Zildjian rep, the common practice to get the most 
out of a 
> normal acoustic cymbal: use a side glancing motion across the 
edge/bow of the cymbal, rather than hitting it straight on. This is 
to get the most out of the cymbal and extend its life. The same 
technique will help your issue on using the trigger...i think... >>> 
follow Moose's (Yoda's) info!
> 
> A little advice from your old uncle don.......

Uncle Don,

The same is true, eminently and urgently so, for electronic cymbals. 
As Stewart explained earlier, a head-on collision between stick and e-
cymbal with membrane can often result in an unwanted choke by virtue 
of the stick lingering on the edge for even an imperceptible amount 
of time. A glancing blow minimizes the chances of unwanted effects. 
This is one of those areas in which e-drums do not perfectly mimic a-
drums. Another involves the kick pad, for essentially the same 
reason. With an acoustic kick drum, you can rest your pedal on the 
head with impunity after striking, whereas with its electronic 
counterpart, that habit could produce stray or double triggers. Hit 
and make a fast getaway.

Ed

RE: Side note: [DTXpress] Re: Crash cymbal problems

2004-09-22 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Another possibility not already mentioned, is that some stray dirt has
lodged between the rubber covering and the FSR ribbon. A few folks have
reported that opening the pad and cleaning it has solved their problem, but
the most likely problem is still a result of technique. 
 
I have six of the PCY65S and three of the PCY80S. Some of the pads I can
strike in any fashion and they will not self-choking, even when trying to
force it to do so on purpose. Two of the PCY80S and one of the PCY65S are
very finicky to the point where I had to disable the rim switches
altogether. Now that I have some of the new PCY cymbals, I am thinking about
doing some experimental surgery on one the PCY80S to see if anything helps. 
 
OGD


 
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, contract731@c... wrote:
> Just a side comment. I had the same issue.
> 
> I learned very early on (many years ago :(  )
> directly from a Zildjian rep, the common practice to get the most 
out of a 
> normal acoustic cymbal: use a side glancing motion across the 
edge/bow of the cymbal, rather than hitting it straight on. This is 
to get the most out of the cymbal and extend its life. The same 
technique will help your issue on using the trigger...i think... >>> 
follow Moose's (Yoda's) info!
> 
> A little advice from your old uncle don.......
 
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ed <mailto:Ed@c> .. wrote:
 

 " Uncle Don,

The same is true, eminently and urgently so, for electronic cymbals. 
As Stewart explained earlier, a head-on collision between stick and e-
cymbal with membrane can often result in an unwanted choke by virtue 
of the stick lingering on the edge for even an imperceptible amount 
of time. A glancing blow minimizes the chances of unwanted effects. 
This is one of those areas in which e-drums do not perfectly mimic a-
drums.  " 




 
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