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Sounds using RHH130

Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by electricmusic

I have just set up my new DTXPRESSIII SP and everything seems to work quite well ... 
except for the RHH130.

Shouldn't I be able to hear a difference in the sounds when hitting the hi hat with the pedal 
pressed down (closed hi hat) and the pedal up (open high hat).  It always sounds like it is 
in the open position.  I have tried various kits and results are the same.

When I press the pedal down I do get the close hit.

If, what steps should I take to troubleshoot the Hi Hat.  It seems like a controller issue?  I 
am already using the Normal (MED) trigger setup for the SP kit.  I have also checked the 
wiring.

Any other suggestions or clarification would be appreciated.

Todd

Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by oldguydrummer

You have already done the first thing I would have suggested. The 
second is to check to make sure you are using two stereo cables to 
connect it to the module. Third, make sure that it is not adjusted 
too high on the rod. If the heavy metal clutch that moves up and down 
that is attached to the center rod doesn't make contact with the 
rubber rocker in the bottom of the RHH130 pad, it will always stay 
opened up. Fourth, only if you feel comfortable opening it up, is to 
see if anything has gotten between the rubber rocker and the ribbon 
switch in the bottom of the pad.

OGD

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "electricmusic" <thcmusic@c...> 
wrote:
> 
> I have just set up my new DTXPRESSIII SP and everything seems to 
work quite well ... 
> except for the RHH130.
> 
> Shouldn't I be able to hear a difference in the sounds when hitting 
the hi hat with the pedal 
> pressed down (closed hi hat) and the pedal up (open high hat).  It 
always sounds like it is 
> in the open position.  I have tried various kits and results are 
the same.
> 
> When I press the pedal down I do get the close hit.
> 
> If, what steps should I take to troubleshoot the Hi Hat.  It seems 
like a controller issue?  I 
> am already using the Normal (MED) trigger setup for the SP kit.  I 
have also checked the
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> wiring.
> 
> Any other suggestions or clarification would be appreciated.
> 
> Todd

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by T Carlson

OGD

Well, no luck....

Using the stereo cables that came with the set.
I have only about 1 inch between the down and up position so its not too
high on rod
Opened up the unit saw the rubber rocker and everything looks OK, then
reassembled
Same results...
Also did factory reset and then put triggers back to MED SP.

Are there any other checks I can do?  Anything I need to double check in the
module?

Also noticed your monster kit in the pics.  What are the small round
triggers (looks like 5 or 6 inch diameter) you have mounted between your
cymbals?

Todd
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> 
> You have already done the first thing I would have suggested. The
> second is to check to make sure you are using two stereo cables to
> connect it to the module. Third, make sure that it is not adjusted
> too high on the rod. If the heavy metal clutch that moves up and down
> that is attached to the center rod doesn't make contact with the
> rubber rocker in the bottom of the RHH130 pad, it will always stay
> opened up. Fourth, only if you feel comfortable opening it up, is to
> see if anything has gotten between the rubber rocker and the ribbon
> switch in the bottom of the pad.
> 
> OGD
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "electricmusic" <thcmusic@c...>
> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I have just set up my new DTXPRESSIII SP and everything seems to
> work quite well ...
>> > except for the RHH130.
>> > 
>> > Shouldn't I be able to hear a difference in the sounds when hitting
> the hi hat with the pedal
>> > pressed down (closed hi hat) and the pedal up (open high hat).  It
> always sounds like it is
>> > in the open position.  I have tried various kits and results are
> the same.
>> > 
>> > When I press the pedal down I do get the close hit.
>> > 
>> > If, what steps should I take to troubleshoot the Hi Hat.  It seems
> like a controller issue?  I
>> > am already using the Normal (MED) trigger setup for the SP kit.  I
> have also checked the
>> > wiring.
>> > 
>> > Any other suggestions or clarification would be appreciated.
>> > 
>> > Todd
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by Charles Baer

My RHH130 didn't seem right when I got my kit, but I was prepared
for it from scanning this group before I bought the set.

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/message/8838

I now consider Dave Ksycki an oh-fish-ul Yamaha company treasure, I've never
had such a painless warranty replacement. (Edirol is giving me headaches 
now)

Experiencing the RHH in good working order makes recognizing the flawed 
units
very easy.  I was standing on the old one and almost never getting a 
closed sound,
with the new one the open/close pedal feel is a reasonable parallel to 
an acoustic.

Charlie

T Carlson wrote:
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> OGD
>
> Well, no luck....
>
> Using the stereo cables that came with the set.
> I have only about 1 inch between the down and up position so its not 
> too high on rod
> Opened up the unit saw the rubber rocker and everything looks OK, then 
> reassembled
> Same results...
> Also did factory reset and then put triggers back to MED SP.
>
> Are there any other checks I can do?  Anything I need to double check 
> in the module?
>
> Also noticed your monster kit in the pics.  What are the small round 
> triggers (looks like 5 or 6 inch diameter) you have mounted between 
> your cymbals?
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>     You have already done the first thing I would have suggested. The
>     second is to check to make sure you are using two stereo cables to
>     connect it to the module. Third, make sure that it is not adjusted
>     too high on the rod. If the heavy metal clutch that moves up and down
>     that is attached to the center rod doesn't make contact with the
>     rubber rocker in the bottom of the RHH130 pad, it will always stay
>     opened up. Fourth, only if you feel comfortable opening it up, is to
>     see if anything has gotten between the rubber rocker and the ribbon
>     switch in the bottom of the pad.
>
>     OGD
>
>     --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "electricmusic" <thcmusic@c...>
>     wrote:
>>
>> I have just set up my new DTXPRESSIII SP and everything seems to
>     work quite well ...
>> except for the RHH130.
>>
>> Shouldn't I be able to hear a difference in the sounds when hitting
>     the hi hat with the pedal
>> pressed down (closed hi hat) and the pedal up (open high hat).  It
>     always sounds like it is
>> in the open position.  I have tried various kits and results are
>     the same.
>>
>> When I press the pedal down I do get the close hit.
>>
>> If, what steps should I take to troubleshoot the Hi Hat.  It seems
>     like a controller issue?  I
>> am already using the Normal (MED) trigger setup for the SP kit.  I
>     have also checked the
>> wiring.
>>
>> Any other suggestions or clarification would be appreciated.
>>
>> Todd
>
>
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by T Carlson

WOW!  This is great to know.  I never would have guessed that this would
have been such a widespread problem.
I will try and contact Dave Ksycki as soon as possible.

Thanks for the info Charlie!

Todd
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> My RHH130 didn't seem right when I got my kit, but I was prepared
> for it from scanning this group before I bought the set.
> 
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress/message/8838
> 
> I now consider Dave Ksycki an oh-fish-ul Yamaha company treasure, I've never
> had such a painless warranty replacement. (Edirol is giving me headaches
> now)
> 
> Experiencing the RHH in good working order makes recognizing the flawed
> units
> very easy.  I was standing on the old one and almost never getting a
> closed sound,
> with the new one the open/close pedal feel is a reasonable parallel to
> an acoustic.
> 
> Charlie
> 
> T Carlson wrote:
> 
>> > OGD
>> >
>> > Well, no luck....
>> >
>> > Using the stereo cables that came with the set.
>> > I have only about 1 inch between the down and up position so its not
>> > too high on rod
>> > Opened up the unit saw the rubber rocker and everything looks OK, then
>> > reassembled
>> > Same results...
>> > Also did factory reset and then put triggers back to MED SP.
>> >
>> > Are there any other checks I can do?  Anything I need to double check
>> > in the module?
>> >
>> > Also noticed your monster kit in the pics.  What are the small round
>> > triggers (looks like 5 or 6 inch diameter) you have mounted between
>> > your cymbals?
>> >
>> > Todd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     You have already done the first thing I would have suggested. The
>> >     second is to check to make sure you are using two stereo cables to
>> >     connect it to the module. Third, make sure that it is not adjusted
>> >     too high on the rod. If the heavy metal clutch that moves up and down
>> >     that is attached to the center rod doesn't make contact with the
>> >     rubber rocker in the bottom of the RHH130 pad, it will always stay
>> >     opened up. Fourth, only if you feel comfortable opening it up, is to
>> >     see if anything has gotten between the rubber rocker and the ribbon
>> >     switch in the bottom of the pad.
>> >
>> >     OGD
>> >
>> >     --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "electricmusic" <thcmusic@c...>
>> >     wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> I have just set up my new DTXPRESSIII SP and everything seems to
>> >     work quite well ...
>>> >> except for the RHH130.
>>> >>
>>> >> Shouldn't I be able to hear a difference in the sounds when hitting
>> >     the hi hat with the pedal
>>> >> pressed down (closed hi hat) and the pedal up (open high hat).  It
>> >     always sounds like it is
>>> >> in the open position.  I have tried various kits and results are
>> >     the same.
>>> >>
>>> >> When I press the pedal down I do get the close hit.
>>> >>
>>> >> If, what steps should I take to troubleshoot the Hi Hat.  It seems
>> >     like a controller issue?  I
>>> >> am already using the Normal (MED) trigger setup for the SP kit.  I
>> >     have also checked the
>>> >> wiring.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any other suggestions or clarification would be appreciated.
>>> >>
>>> >> Todd
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by Keith

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, T Carlson <thcmusic@c...> wrote:
> WOW!  This is great to know.  I never would have guessed that this would
> have been such a widespread problem.
> I will try and contact Dave Ksycki as soon as possible.
> 

I don't have the RHH130, but if you haven't already done so it might
be worth checking that the trigger setting for the hi-hat input is set
up for the RHH130, not the TP65 as on the standard DTXpress.

Keith.

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Sounds using RHH130

2005-03-24 by joe m

>From: Charles Baer <charlie@...>

>I now consider Dave Ksycki an oh-fish-ul Yamaha company treasure, I've 
>never
>had such a painless warranty replacement.

I will second that

:)

JoeMcc

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