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dropped hits

dropped hits

2005-05-11 by david cheong

Dear all

Hope to get some help from you folks.. I have a DTX3SE for about a
year 
now and has been having fun until recently. Has been getting
'dropped' 
hits on the snare pad esp when i play fast eg 16th fill or practising 
rudiments. This happen on the toms pads as well but less often. Tried 
switching the tom pad with the snare but the same problem
persist...so 
i reckon it is not a snare pad problem.
Also 1 0r 2 of the fast beats comes through very loud (as if at max 
volume) with no change in my hitting force. Brought the unit back to 
yamaha service centre (in Singapore) but was told nothing wrong!

Any one had the same problem or solutions?

Thanks a lot.


david

Re: dropped hits

2005-05-11 by Nick Carroll

Yes, I own the DTXtreme II, and I've had dropped hits - mostly when 
playing live or rehearsing with the band. I believe it happens when 
the bass player is too loud and boomy, or his speaker is too close 
to my kit. So I ask him to move his speaker away. I have also solved 
the problem to some extent by turning down the gain on my snare pad.

Dropped hits come with the territory, and I don't think it is an 
exclusively Yamaha problem. Nevertheless it is immensely frustrating.
I know of someone who ditched his Roland e-kit because he was 
getting dropped notes. I am not happy about dropped notes and other 
shortcomings of e-kits. I have decided not to use my DTXtreme for 
live work any more - I'm going back to my acoustic kit, and keep the 
DTXT for rehearsals and recording only.

Nick.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "david cheong" <cheongth@g...> 
wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> Hope to get some help from you folks.. I have a DTX3SE for about a
> year 
> now and has been having fun until recently. Has been getting
> 'dropped' 
> hits on the snare pad esp when i play fast eg 16th fill or 
practising 
> rudiments. This happen on the toms pads as well but less often. 
Tried 
> switching the tom pad with the snare but the same problem
> persist...so 
> i reckon it is not a snare pad problem.
> Also 1 0r 2 of the fast beats comes through very loud (as if at 
max 
> volume) with no change in my hitting force. Brought the unit back 
to 
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> yamaha service centre (in Singapore) but was told nothing wrong!
> 
> Any one had the same problem or solutions?
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> 
> david

Re: dropped hits

2005-05-11 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Carroll" <njcarroll56@y...> 
wrote:
> Yes, I own the DTXtreme II, and I've had dropped hits - mostly when 
> playing live or rehearsing with the band. I believe it happens when 
> the bass player is too loud and boomy, or his speaker is too close 
> to my kit. So I ask him to move his speaker away. I have also solved 
> the problem to some extent by turning down the gain on my snare pad.
> 
> Dropped hits come with the territory, and I don't think it is an 
> exclusively Yamaha problem. Nevertheless it is immensely frustrating.
> I know of someone who ditched his Roland e-kit because he was 
> getting dropped notes. I am not happy about dropped notes and other 
> shortcomings of e-kits. I have decided not to use my DTXtreme for 
> live work any more - I'm going back to my acoustic kit, and keep the 
> DTXT for rehearsals and recording only.

In addition to complications from crosstalk, and the muting artifacts 
inherent in the rejection settings and in min. velocity, which should 
all be explored carefully before surrendering to that fickle female, 
Miss Hitz, I have a theory that many e-drum processors have a limit on 
their recovery time, which may translate as interruptions in fast 
sticking, especially when a lot of electronic events, planned or 
otherwise, are occurring at the same time.  As for the random loud 
hits, I recall getting them on the original TP80S, mainly when the 
sensitivity knob on the bottom of the pad was turned too far. I 
suppose high gain of any kind could magnify hits the same way on the 
newer pads as well. Also, see OGD's recent warning about shorting at 
the jack, several posts back.

Ed

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