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Too Good To Be True?

Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-07 by rjwyatt_99

Folks,

I realize this is a little off topic but it may be of interest given 
we're all players of electronic drums and we often suggest checking 
ebay for kits and pieces...

There have been a number of ads for Roland TD-20S V Pro drumkits at 
seemingly unbelievable prices (here's an URL to an example)...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=1292&item=7161945350&rd=1

Seems to good to be true.  Does anyone have experience with these types 
of ads?  The exact same ad has shown up every day on one day sale by 
different email addresses, with the same picture of "the actual kit" 
for the last number of days.  There's even a duplicate in the UK too.

I'm not selling these or in any way affliated with whomever is ... but 
a Roland TD-20S VPro at that price would be amazing!


Cheers,
Rich.
Proud owner of a DTXpress II

Re: [DTXpress] Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-07 by Stuart McConaghy

They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll send you a V-Club, or 
an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just take the money and run.

Stuart McConaghy
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On Jun 7, 2005, at 1:16 PM, rjwyatt_99 wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I realize this is a little off topic but it may be of interest given
> we're all players of electronic drums and we often suggest checking
> ebay for kits and pieces...
>
> There have been a number of ads for Roland TD-20S V Pro drumkits at
> seemingly unbelievable prices (here's an URL to an example)...
> http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&category=1292&item=7161945350&rd=1
>
> Seems to good to be true.  Does anyone have experience with these types
> of ads?  The exact same ad has shown up every day on one day sale by
> different email addresses, with the same picture of "the actual kit"
> for the last number of days.  There's even a duplicate in the UK too.
>
> I'm not selling these or in any way affliated with whomever is ... but
> a Roland TD-20S VPro at that price would be amazing!
>
>
> Cheers,
> Rich.
> Proud owner of a DTXpress II
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-07 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy <stuart@s...> wrote:
> They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll send you a V-Club, 
or 
> an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just take the money and 
run . . .

if someone doesn't pull the plug on them first. Sometimes an auction 
like that one disappears between your first look and second. Who but a 
scam artist would sell a Roland kit, or any kit, at such a loss? 
Either ignore them, ask them a pointed question to be answered on 
site, or report them to ebay. The first big ebay scam that I remember 
were the crooks in Romania selling plasmas at about an 80% discount, 
accepting only money orders or wire transfers. Shockingly, enough 
people took them up on it that the crime became a minor cause celebre. 
I was in the market for a plasma five years ago and ran across a site 
selling the great Panasonics and NECs for practically nothing. I sent 
an email to the "company" in hard language, and the next thing I knew 
the site was gone. I may not have been responsible, but it felt good, 
anyway.

Hey, Stuart, how are you? Long time.

Ed

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-07 by Jerald Henderson

There's been a couple of DTXREME kits for sale on eBay over the last month.
The first one closed out a little over $2000. The second one, just last week, was going for a rediculously low price. However, they had no history, no payment type, and virtually no information on the their bid page. I wrote to them, I got no answer back. That's some serious red flags. Yet people still put bids on it !
Bottom line, if it looks too good to be true, it problably is. Don't buy a big ticket item unless the seller can back it up with history, communication, PayPay+, etc.

emf wrote:
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy wrote:
> They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll send you a V-Club,
or
> an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just take the money and
run . . .

if someone doesn't pull the plug on them first. Sometimes an auction
like that one disappears between your first look and second. Who but a
scam artist would sell a Roland kit, or any kit, at such a loss?
Either ignore them, ask them a pointed question to be answered on
site, or report them to ebay. The first big ebay scam that I remember
were the crooks in Romania selling plasmas at about an 80% discount,
accepting only money orders or wire transfers. Shockingly, enough
people took them up on it that the crime became a minor cause celebre.
I was in the market for a plasma five years ago and ran across a site
selling the great Panasonics and NECs for practically nothing. I sent
an email to the "company" in hard language, and the next thing I knew
the site was gone. I may not have been responsible, but it felt good,
anyway.

Hey, Stuart, how are you? Long time.

Ed




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my update

2005-06-07 by Garrey Faller

Hope everyone out there is having a good day.
Just thought I'd give everyone an update.
I am new to the dtxpress electronic drums and new to
drums in general. So far..no lessons. Ive had my set
(Dxpress 3) for about 2 months now.

I no longer suck bad. 
I'm just now bad but improving.I think thats a good
sign. My kids are getting pretty good.

I plug in my mp3 player into the audio input...pretty
good for practicing .I havent tried to capture from my
mp3 player..not sure if that would work but I know
there were questions the other day about recording
ones drumming...it should work with the right jacks I
think.

Thanks to all for keeping up this great forum.

Garrey

--- Jerald Henderson <jeraldlhenderson@...>
wrote:

> There's been a couple of DTXREME kits for sale on
> eBay over the last month. 
>  
> The first one closed out a little over $2000.  The
> second one, just last week, was going for a
> rediculously low price. However, they had no
> history, no payment type, and virtually no
> information on the their bid page. I wrote to them,
> I got no answer back. That's some serious red flags.
> Yet people still put bids on it !
>  
> Bottom line, if it looks too good to be true, it
> problably is. Don't buy a big ticket item unless the
> seller can back it up with history, communication,
> PayPay+, etc.
> 
> emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy
> <stuart@s...> wrote:
> > They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll
> send you a V-Club, 
> or 
> > an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just
> take the money and 
> run . . .
> 
> if someone doesn't pull the plug on them first.
> Sometimes an auction 
> like that one disappears between your first look and
> second. Who but a 
> scam artist would sell a Roland kit, or any kit, at
> such a loss? 
> Either ignore them, ask them a pointed question to
> be answered on 
> site, or report them to ebay. The first big ebay
> scam that I remember 
> were the crooks in Romania selling plasmas at about
> an 80% discount, 
> accepting only money orders or wire transfers.
> Shockingly, enough 
> people took them up on it that the crime became a
> minor cause celebre. 
> I was in the market for a plasma five years ago and
> ran across a site 
> selling the great Panasonics and NECs for
> practically nothing. I sent 
> an email to the "company" in hard language, and the
> next thing I knew 
> the site was gone. I may not have been responsible,
> but it felt good, 
> anyway.
> 
> Hey, Stuart, how are you? Long time.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-08 by NightWolf

Good points Jerald, well said Ed, the page has indeed
been pulled, as well as any other ad for a Roland
TD-20S VPro. Keep in mind that there are legit folks
on e bay too. I bought my DTXPIII on e bay for a
reasonable price (a good bit below Musicians Friend),
but I did a lot of research before clicking send, that
is the key my Friends. Caveat Emptor!!

Peace,
John

--- Jerald Henderson <jeraldlhenderson@...>
wrote:

> There's been a couple of DTXREME kits for sale on
> eBay over the last month. 
>  
> The first one closed out a little over $2000.  The
> second one, just last week, was going for a
> rediculously low price. However, they had no
> history, no payment type, and virtually no
> information on the their bid page. I wrote to them,
> I got no answer back. That's some serious red flags.
> Yet people still put bids on it !
>  
> Bottom line, if it looks too good to be true, it
> problably is. Don't buy a big ticket item unless the
> seller can back it up with history, communication,
> PayPay+, etc.
> 
> emf <liberatusvirus@...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy
> <stuart@s...> wrote:
> > They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll
> send you a V-Club, 
> or 
> > an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just
> take the money and 
> run . . .
> 
> if someone doesn't pull the plug on them first.
> Sometimes an auction 
> like that one disappears between your first look and
> second. Who but a 
> scam artist would sell a Roland kit, or any kit, at
> such a loss? 
> Either ignore them, ask them a pointed question to
> be answered on 
> site, or report them to ebay. The first big ebay
> scam that I remember 
> were the crooks in Romania selling plasmas at about
> an 80% discount, 
> accepting only money orders or wire transfers.
> Shockingly, enough 
> people took them up on it that the crime became a
> minor cause celebre. 
> I was in the market for a plasma five years ago and
> ran across a site 
> selling the great Panasonics and NECs for
> practically nothing. I sent 
> an email to the "company" in hard language, and the
> next thing I knew 
> the site was gone. I may not have been responsible,
> but it felt good, 
> anyway.
> 
> Hey, Stuart, how are you? Long time.
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Community email addresses:
>   Post message: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Subscribe:    DTXpress-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> 
> Shortcut URL to this page:
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DTXpress
> 
> Alternate DTXpress site:
>   http://www.dtxpressions.com 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
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> Shawnee, KS
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RE: [DTXpress] Re: Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-08 by mark.fletcher@allianzcornhill.co.uk

Likewise I bought my DTXpress 3 on ebay 3 months old £200 below list from an excellent seller who was a pleasure to deal with. So don't be put off just make sure you do your research.
Carveat Emptor indeed !
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-----Original Message-----
From: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of NightWolf
Sent: 08 June 2005 08:57
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Too Good To Be True?

Good points Jerald, well said Ed, the page has indeed
been pulled, as well as any other ad for a Roland
TD-20S VPro. Keep in mind that there are legit folks
on e bay too. I bought my DTXPIII on e bay for a
reasonable price (a good bit below Musicians Friend),
but I did a lot of research before clicking send, that
is the key my Friends. Caveat Emptor!!

Peace,
John

--- Jerald Henderson
wrote:

> There's been a couple of DTXREME kits for sale on
> eBay over the last month.
>
> The first one closed out a little over $2000. The
> second one, just last week, was going for a
> rediculously low price. However, they had no
> history, no payment type, and virtually no
> information on the their bid page. I wrote to them,
> I got no answer back. That's some serious red flags.
> Yet people still put bids on it !
>
> Bottom line, if it looks too good to be true, it
> problably is. Don't buy a big ticket item unless the
> seller can back it up with history, communication,
> PayPay+, etc.
>
> emf wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Stuart McConaghy
> wrote:
> > They're always scams - if you're lucky, they'll
> send you a V-Club,
> or
> > an older TD-10 kit, but most times they'll just
> take the money and
> run . . .
>
> if someone doesn't pull the plug on them first.
> Sometimes an auction
> like that one disappears between your first look and
> second. Who but a
> scam artist would sell a Roland kit, or any kit, at
> such a loss?
> Either ignore them, ask them a pointed question to
> be answered on
> site, or report them to ebay. The first big ebay
> scam that I remember
> were the crooks in Romania selling plasmas at about
> an 80% discount,
> accepting only money orders or wire transfers.
> Shockingly, enough
> people took them up on it that the crime became a
> minor cause celebre.
> I was in the market for a plasma five years ago and
> ran across a site
> selling the great Panasonics and NECs for
> practically nothing. I sent
> an email to the "company" in hard language, and the
> next thing I knew
> the site was gone. I may not have been responsible,
> but it felt good,
> anyway.
>
> Hey, Stuart, how are you? Long time.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Too Good To Be True?

2005-06-08 by Stuart McConaghy

Not bad, Ed, busy as hell, but still find time to read the DTXpress and 
DTXtreme forums!
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