Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

all the DXTpress come with KP65 and HH65....
i know HH80 and KP80 can also be used with all DXTpress models, so i 
just wonder which ones are better, and can anyone tell me the 
difference between them??
Thanks very mcuh

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "lulyangl" <lulyangl@y...> wrote:
> all the DXTpress come with KP65 and HH65....
> i know HH80 and KP80 can also be used with all DXTpress models, so 
i 
> just wonder which ones are better, and can anyone tell me the 
> difference between them??
> Thanks very mcuh

I deleted my first reply to this message to change my tune about the 
the KP80. I really can't remember it well enough to recommend it to 
anyone, and the new round versions made by Yamaha and other companies 
really do have a distinct advantage IMO. The rest of what I wrote 
still stands, until somebody knocks it down. 

At this point, I've forgotten more than I've ever known about the 
earlier 80s models. The HH80 was reputed to be continuously variable 
from open to fully closed, but in practice, fine discrimination was 
pretty difficult, as with all MIDI high hats. The KP80 was an okay
kick so far as I can recall--better than its little rubber sibling 
the KP60, which was unreliable, but, as I said, I wouldn't go out of 
my way to get one now. Frankly, I don't know whether the HH65 is much 
better than the HH80. It may have a few improved parts, but the 
principle is the same. The KP65 has had a checkered career; both the 
rubber and the foam behind it has been known to break down, though 
users can take precautionary action against early deterioration by 
placing a patch on the pad, using a wood beater, etc. In general, I'd 
stick with new hi hats over used ones, since high hats suffer over 
time. It would be hard to find a new HH80, anyway.
 
Ed